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Landlord disposed of clothes by mistake!

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  • paddyrg
    paddyrg Posts: 13,543 Forumite
    Clearly the LL didn't seek to cause anyone any grief or distress - instead they were trying to clear up some broken property and made the mistake of believing bin bags next to other rubbish were also rubbish. So any talk of theft/police etc is just silly.

    £50 shows the LL notes that this was an error, and is trying to rectify things. This sounds like *exactly* the kind of thing that insurance is for, and the LL's £50 should cover the excess. If it doesn't, ask LL for maybe £100 instead. The clothes are not worth £500 if they have been worn.

    In fact the clothes being in a bin bag in the first place suggests they weren't original Westwoods, for instance. Bin bags (as the name suggests) are for bins, suitcases etc for suits! If the LL had thrown away 3 suitcases of clothes, it would be tougher to accept as an honest mistake.

    Was she even a tenant at the time? Very commonly students will leave a couple of bags of clothes whilst moving out.

    Yes, it's a pain, yes it's not ideal, but it is life, and life isn't ideal.
  • dodger1
    dodger1 Posts: 4,579 Forumite
    Call the police, it's theft.

    No, it was a mistake.
    It's someone else's fault.
  • jamie11
    jamie11 Posts: 4,436 Forumite
    Maysie wrote: »
    Must be a cheap charity shop that would give you 3 bin bags of clothes for £50 haven't you seen the prices they charge these days? They are more than sale items in the high street. say 20 items per bag minimum could be more (op how many items do you think she has lost?) thats 60 items less than a quid an item your having a laugh. Most things in charirty shops seem about the £4 mark for a bobbly primark t-shirt,£8 for trousers or skirts and about a tenner for most dresses. If she had her seasonal clothes in bags as us women sometimes overfill the dressers and wardrobes.... Could be some coats which cost her a fortune in the bags. Coats round here are always over a tenner in charity shops.

    OK Maysie, I fold, I'm only a bloke and I have no idea how much a pair of second hand knickers are going to cost in a charity shop. :rotfl: Nor do I want to.
  • Absinthe_2
    Absinthe_2 Posts: 994 Forumite
    jamie11 wrote: »
    OK Maysie, I fold, I'm only a bloke and I have no idea how much a pair of second hand knickers are going to cost in a charity shop. :rotfl: Nor do I want to.

    :eek: jamie, I don't know of one female that would buy a used pair of knickers from a charity shop. Not when you can get a pack of 5 for £3. :rotfl:
    Oh well...
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  • chalice
    chalice Posts: 10 Forumite
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    Thank you all so much for the responses. Most interesting. Have spoken to my daughter now and discovered a little more. I am only sorry I didn't get my facts straight at the beginning.

    The girls left a note to say what needed to be taken and it was all in one place on the table in the living room. Unfortunately they took the note too! The only things to take were a broken microwave and a bin. They knew that apparently.

    The 3 bags of clothes were left in the hallway (ready for her to try and sell on ebay). Nowhere near the table. They were clearly full of clothes, some new. He claims they were tatty old clothes, not worth much at all. This wouldn't be for him to judge anyway.

    He claimed he left a voicemail to let them know he was coming but no-one received it.

    So, he was clearly in the wrong.....but with no receipts, what to do about it?

    Many thanks for your help.
  • whitewing
    whitewing Posts: 11,852 Forumite
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    Has she photos if the clothes were to be sold on ebay?
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  • GDB2222
    GDB2222 Posts: 27,018 Forumite
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    chalice wrote: »
    Thank you all so much for the responses. Most interesting. Have spoken to my daughter now and discovered a little more. I am only sorry I didn't get my facts straight at the beginning.

    The girls left a note to say what needed to be taken and it was all in one place on the table in the living room. Unfortunately they took the note too! The only things to take were a broken microwave and a bin. They knew that apparently.

    The 3 bags of clothes were left in the hallway (ready for her to try and sell on ebay). Nowhere near the table. They were clearly full of clothes, some new. He claims they were tatty old clothes, not worth much at all. This wouldn't be for him to judge anyway.

    He claimed he left a voicemail to let them know he was coming but no-one received it.

    So, he was clearly in the wrong.....but with no receipts, what to do about it?

    Many thanks for your help.

    1st of all, if your daughter had put the microwave and other stuff on the table to be taken away, she must have been expecting the landlord to come in. So, there does not seem to be a problem there.

    2nd, if your daughter was planning to sell these clothes on eBay, she is only entitled to their sale price, less all of the eBay and PayPal charges, less postage, etc. Unless there were some really good items, it seems unlikely that there was anything there worth selling, especially when you consider all of the time and trouble to photograph the items and package them etc.

    3rd, valuation is easy. You do not need any receipts, but your daughter needs to make a list of items in the black bags and then find how much comparable items sold for on eBay. Then just deduct all the expenses as set out above.

    To give you an idea, here is a link to an item that just ended. It is a perfectly nice Dorothy Perkins dress (okay, I am a man, so what do I know?) That was listed for £1.99 and failed to sell. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Dorothy-Perkins-Black-Silver-Dress-Top-/200729735394

    If this is just ordinary second-hand clothing, you would need to sell an awful lot of it to net £50. I suspect that your daughter's landlord has done her a great favour.
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • GDB2222
    GDB2222 Posts: 27,018 Forumite
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    obviously, if the bags were stuffed with designer items, things would be different.
    No reliance should be placed on the above! Absolutely none, do you hear?
  • paddyrg
    paddyrg Posts: 13,543 Forumite
    3 bags, say 10 items/bag selling for £2/each after listing, closing and paypal fees - £50-100 doesnt seem massively unreasonable for secondhand, unwanted high-street clothes.
  • mazy_m
    mazy_m Posts: 661 Forumite
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    Does she have any bank statements showing that she spent money at stores etc....especially for the new items then this could contribute towards something obviously she wouldn't get full price due to depreciation as she wouldn't have got full price on ebay either. I'd say £50 is not nearly enough for 3 bin bags worth of clothes. It was not for the LL to judge they were tatty old clothes what a cheek!
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