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Renewables: "talking 'bout my generation"

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  • Kernel_Sanders
    Kernel_Sanders Posts: 3,617 Forumite
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    edited 16 June 2013 at 11:04PM
    18.41 kWh today.
    EricMears wrote: »
    Suspect you were thinking of this thread where 'energysavingexpert' mentioned his ceramic filters in post #16 /
    It wasn't that post, although it may well have been him. I've spent some time looking myself, but keep getting bogged down finding other interesting stuff! Take this exchange from 15 months ago:
    EricMears wrote: »
    As usual I'm just a bit behind you (20.77kWh) - almost certainly due to shallower pitch as I didn't see a cloud all day apart from a few contrails.
    I still think you will catch up (and, indeed, overtake me) before we reach the solstice.
    EricMears wrote: »
    The optimum pitch for SS day would be approx 30deg (latitude - 23deg). Your 23deg is closer to that than my 17.5 - but we'll both be better off that day than anyone with a slope of 45deg.

    You are beating my production most days this month by several %, whereas most of the year the reverse is true. How do you account for this given that your capacity is just 2% greater?
  • Oscargrouch
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    shafeeq wrote: »
    7.36 kwh / 2.45 O's


    Not my fault that sun is shy of Sheffield ;)

    Or is that Sheffield is shy of Sun...:rotfl:

    3.96 O's today for I....

    Interestingly; to me anyway, last June 2012 - 15th I did 42.24 O's; this year, same period managed 76.28 O's....:eek:
    Totals for complete June's were 2012 = 109.76 O's and 2013 already incl. of today is 80.24 O's.......smiley-laughing021.gif.
    2.5 kWp PV system, SSW facing, 45 Deg Roof. ABB Inverter, Monitor: 'Wattson'.
    Reg. for FIT Nov 2011. "It's not what you generate; it's how you use it that matters". One very clean Vauxhall Diesel Sri, £30.00 Road Tax: B)

    Definition of 'O's = kWh/kWp (kWh = your daily & accurate Generation figure) (kWp = the rated output of your PV Panels).
  • EricMears
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    You are beating my production most days this month by several %, whereas most of the year the reverse is true. How do you account for this given that your capacity is just 2% greater?

    I don't think the few degrees of difference in slope would make a huge difference either way.

    No doubt it's all down to variable cloud cover and I've just been lucky. Tunnel lives even closer and there are often huge unexplained differences between our results.
    NE Derbyshire.4kWp S Facing 17.5deg slope (dormer roof).24kWh of Pylontech batteries with Lux controller BEV : Hyundai Ioniq5
  • Kernel_Sanders
    Kernel_Sanders Posts: 3,617 Forumite
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    EricMears wrote: »
    I don't think the few degrees of difference in slope would make a huge difference either way.

    No doubt it's all down to variable cloud cover and I've just been lucky. Tunnel lives even closer and there are often huge unexplained differences between our results.
    OK well, 12.53kWh for me today, but a late burst of sunshine means I'm still getting 15 watts.
    Rarely went above 2kW so no immersion heater on today. Same tomorrow too, so looks like it's back to strip washes! Can't seem to lay my hands on a 2nd hand 1kW (or lower) element.
  • shafeeq
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    Not much to report from Sheffield. . 7.04 kwh / 2.34 O's... There is no end to sight. ... after a good start to the month is going down hill. ..
  • EricMears
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    OK well, 12.53kWh for me today, but a late burst of sunshine means I'm still getting 15 watts.
    Rarely went above 2kW so no immersion heater on today. Same tomorrow too, so looks like it's back to strip washes! Can't seem to lay my hands on a 2nd hand 1kW (or lower) element.

    Seems I'm ahead of you yet again - but my 12.69 kWh isn't exactly dwarfing yours.

    You could do what I've done with my immersion heater and run a 3kW (230V) element at 115V when it magically transforms into a 750W element. A brand new builders site transformer is only approx. £50 and a s/h one usually a lot less (I think mine was £15)
    NE Derbyshire.4kWp S Facing 17.5deg slope (dormer roof).24kWh of Pylontech batteries with Lux controller BEV : Hyundai Ioniq5
  • Oscargrouch
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    3.56 O's .....from now on, the only way is up up and away...smiley-laughing021.gif
    2.5 kWp PV system, SSW facing, 45 Deg Roof. ABB Inverter, Monitor: 'Wattson'.
    Reg. for FIT Nov 2011. "It's not what you generate; it's how you use it that matters". One very clean Vauxhall Diesel Sri, £30.00 Road Tax: B)

    Definition of 'O's = kWh/kWp (kWh = your daily & accurate Generation figure) (kWp = the rated output of your PV Panels).
  • Kernel_Sanders
    Kernel_Sanders Posts: 3,617 Forumite
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    edited 17 June 2013 at 11:36PM
    I've been looking back over this thread at what I've been missing in my absence and discovered the source of the 'O':
    Martyn1981 wrote: »
    In tribute to Oscargrouch we've shortened kWh's/kWp down to Oscars or O's. So I got 2.35 O's today.
    In tribute to Oscargrouch??:shocked: A whole year previously on this very thread I was proposing virtually the same concept....
    OK so who's going to have the worst generation total today (as a %age of kWp?) I ended up with a paltry 1.16 kWh (so, 29.6%).
    KevinG wrote: »
    Using your method I got 113% today. My lowest ever, in December, worked out at 7.5%.
    OK so mine was expressed as a percentage, so KevinG's 113% would be 1.13 Os.
    Now I find that Oscar has usurped me, and his plagiarism means I will not now be immortalized alongside Ohm, Watt or Volta! :mad:
  • Martyn1981
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    Now I find that Oscar has usurped me, and his plagiarism means I will not now be immortalized alongside Ohm, Watt or Volta! :mad:

    Oh dear! If that has annoyed you KS, then I suggest you don't read the next quote extract:
    Martyn1981 wrote: »
    Solar PV Q&A’s Index PTII

    11. Common terms and acronyms used on this site in conjunction with PV and renewables in general.

    NG = National Grid
    O's = Oscars - slang abbreviation for kWh's/kWp to compare PV generation after taking install size into account
    Poly = Polycrystalline panels

    Perhaps a compromise can be reached, and you and Oscar can share the fame. If you are happy I suggest 'OK's' if you want to fight for greater recognition, might I suggest 'KO's'.

    Back to reality, yesterday was a surprise average+ day with 22kWh's or 3.94 O,OK,KO's.

    Today as supposed to be grotty, but now predicting nice weather from 11 to 7, followed by 8 grotty days - hope the forecast is wrong.

    Mart.

    PS: Some music for the Kernel, looking for justification during the long hard times to come!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yT2i2UylxJ0
    Mart. Cardiff. 8.72 kWp PV systems (2.12 SSW 4.6 ESE & 2.0 WNW). 20kWh battery storage. Two A2A units for cleaner heating. Two BEV's for cleaner driving.

    For general PV advice please see the PV FAQ thread on the Green & Ethical Board.
  • Oscargrouch
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    Now I find that Oscar has usurped me, and his plagiarism means I will not now be immortalized alongside Ohm, Watt or Volta! :mad:

    What....:eek:
    2.5 kWp PV system, SSW facing, 45 Deg Roof. ABB Inverter, Monitor: 'Wattson'.
    Reg. for FIT Nov 2011. "It's not what you generate; it's how you use it that matters". One very clean Vauxhall Diesel Sri, £30.00 Road Tax: B)

    Definition of 'O's = kWh/kWp (kWh = your daily & accurate Generation figure) (kWp = the rated output of your PV Panels).
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