No Insurance for my car in the petrol station.

thenudeone

vax2002 wrote: »

The police will take the car if it is not on MIB regardless of what documents you have, they regard them as forgeries.

As I have already stated time and again on these forums: If you produce a valid certificate at the roadside, any seizure would be illegal and the police will have to pay all of your costs relating to it.

It may still be seized but you will not be out of pocket.

The police DO NOT have the legal power to seize a vehicle for no insurance if the driver produces a valid certificate at the time.
FACT.

thenudeone

vax2002 wrote: »

It may be dependant on where you live, however in West Yorkshire, they will call nobody, if you car is not on MID it will go on the back of a recovery truck and you can argue it out with the recovery garage.
UNLESS you are in possession of these documents at Roadside :
A full Birth certificate and at least one form of Photographic ID such as a driving licence or passport.
A document or reference to from your insurance stating policy number and time and date of commencement .
They will only accept ALL of the 3 and then will deal with by way of producer.
If you dont have all 3, away it goes.
They do have severe issues up here with identity problems so Things may be different in areas with Less insurance fraud.

All I can say is that the Police Authority must have quite a large budget to pay compensation to motorists whose cars have been seized unlawfully.

http://www.casecheck.co.uk/Default.aspx?tabid=1184&EntryID=17385
http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWCA/Civ/2011/749.html

Sgt_Pepper_2

vax2002 wrote: »

The police will take the car if it is not on MIB regardless of what documents you have, they regard them as forgeries.

vax2002 wrote: »

It may be dependant on where you live, however in West Yorkshire, they will call nobody, if you car is not on MID it will go on the back of a recovery truck and you can argue it out with the recovery garage.
UNLESS you are in possession of these documents at Roadside :
A full Birth certificate and at least one form of Photographic ID such as a driving licence or passport.
A document or reference to from your insurance stating policy number and time and date of commencement .
They will only accept ALL of the 3 and then will deal with by way of producer.
If you dont have all 3, away it goes.
They do have severe issues up here with identity problems so Things may be different in areas with Less insurance fraud.

vax2002 wrote: »

They are a bit fairer than West Yorkshire, if you have the ID they require and can prove who you are, then they may give you a producer.
But things are so bad around some citys here, if your car is not on MID and you dont have ID that proves who you are and lets be honest, you could be anyone, they will lift the car.
Who can argue with that ?
If you have new insurance, carry some ID, birth certificate OR passport until your car pops up on mid and your photo card licence and your policy number and you will be on your way.
Those that are causing the problems, using fake cover notes, cars insured in others names, wont be and to be honest, hats off to the police for putting a stop to it.

Do you have anything to back up your claims or do you just make them up?

olly300

pogofish wrote: »

This proposal is what might have spooked the OP?




http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/cctv-at-petrol-stations-will-automatically-stop-758518

Hmmm.....!

I wonder if they are going to raise pertol station staff pay rates to match police or DVLA enforcement officers then?

They probably will get a bonus of £50 for every car they catch.

My mates who use to work in off-licenses and some supermarkets use to get a bonus for getting false cards.

olly300

pogofish wrote: »

I'd only agree if insurers were properly compelled to conduct themselves with some integrity in the first place.

However, as I am currently being obstructed and stonewalled at every turn in a complaint against an insurer whose incompetence, and failure to maintain proper records resulted in my having a policy voided and my being placed on one or more of the toxic databases, through no fault of my own, I would currently prefer that they and all who work for them be strung-up by the toenails and prevented from conning the public ever again! :mad:

The financial ombudsman is there for a reason and I suggest you use it if your complaint is still in time.

magpiecottage

olly300 wrote: »

The financial ombudsman is there for a reason and I suggest you use it if your complaint is still in time.

Makes sense. The insurer has eight weeks from the date the "expression of dissatisfaction" (FSAspeak for "complaint") was made to it by the complainant to make a response to them. If the response is unsatisfactory or not sent in time then they can complain to FOS, free.

Of course we do not know the facts behind the grievance and even if it is well founded, it is far more likely to be incompetence than conspiracy. The bigger an organisation is the less competent it is.

pogofish

olly300 wrote: »

The financial ombudsman is there for a reason and I suggest you use it if your complaint is still in time.

They have been copied-in from the point the insurer reneged on an acceptable agreed resolution and I handed it over to a solicitor.

It has still not stopped them from being as obstructive and delaying as they possibly can.

pogofish

magpiecottage wrote: »

Of course we do not know the facts behind the grievance and even if it is well founded, it is far more likely to be incompetence than conspiracy. The bigger an organisation is the less competent it is.

The only relevant fact is their utter incompetence and attempt to backpedal out of dealing with it. My own conduct was beyond reproach.