Legality of parking on residential roads?

mikey72

musictomyears wrote: »

......................In the end the lorry had to mount the pavement (breaking it) in order to reverse back into the garage.................

Report it.
They'll send his insurers the bill.
That'll stop him soon enough.

Wig

Obukit wrote: »

So another thread where the OP comes expecting everyone to agree with them, then finds out the legalities and gets in a strop.

I was not saying it is not reasonable to want to park on your road, I was saying that LEGALLY SPEAKING the lorry driver is in the right. And clearly you could get out the way of the lorry by going onto the pavement if you did not want to reverse onto the dual carriageway. It is not a "sickening comment" to say that large vehicles run the risk of running over children when reversing, it is a FACT as they cannot see anything directly behind them, which is why trying to force them to reverse is so stupid.

But you didn't say that..... you said this....

Obukit wrote: »

As an aside, whether you agree with the lorries driving down there or not, it's a bit bloody-minded to refuse to reverse a car if you meet a lorry. They are MUCH more difficult to manoeuvre and in the end if you get the side of your car ripped off - or if the lorry runs over a kid trying to reverse - you are going to feel pretty sick.

............without knowing all the facts...... the OP was perfectly right in refusing to reverse onto a dual carriageway. The OP did solve the situation by driving onto the pavement.

If the pavement solution was not possible then the HGV driver should have got out his cab....talked to the car driver and both parties agreed to call the police to come to stop the dual carriageway traffic.

You perhaps should admit that the way you wrote your first post without knowing all the facts was a tad insensitive.

Wig

Notmyrealname wrote: »

How is that any more reasonable than expecting a vehicle 53ft long to which by your own admission already has difficulty manouvering?

Perhaps if the driver of your car was competent and looked a bit further ahead than the end of their bonnet, they'd have seen what might and did happen by driving into the road and waited until the lorry had exited. Its called engaging ones brain.

I'm coming to the conclusion you don't actually drive.

It would be inadvisable to stop on a fast moving dual carriageway

Wig

Obukit wrote: »

For me it was when the OP said they reversed onto a dual carriageway the wrong way, facing oncoming traffic.

My understanding of the OPs description was that she meant.....as a reversing car...the direction of movement of the car would be opposite to the direction of movement of the cars using the DC. It may have little relevance (i.e. it's obvious) to the actual dangers posed but it shows how much the OP is worried about having to perform the manouevre. that they thought it necessary to put it into words.

If you have to reverse onto a DC at least reverse the right way, so people can see your reverse lights!

I believe this is what she meant.

You should NEVER reverse onto a dual carriageway without police assistance IMHO.

Ich_2

Never mind in all this obeying this little gem from the Higway Code is a good idea

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Do not reverse from a side road into a main road. When using a driveway, reverse in and drive out if you can.

Wig

Take photos of the broken pavement and write a letter to your council about the whole situation and that you would like them to put a traffic order in place to stop HGV traffic. Take the registration of the HGV and include this with a witness statement that you and other residents, who you could supply names address of if required, witnessed the lorry breaking the pavement. and request that the highways department persue the lorry insurers for costs of repair to the highway. You could include a local petition from residents. Copy the letter to you local councillor.

Write a similar grievance letter to the garage owner asking why they allow this to continue, and again copy the letter to your councillor....

Put CC councillor XXX on the letterhead and within the body of the letter mention that you have copied this letter to your councillor - so that you can be sure they understand the letter has been copied.

Notmyrealname

Wig wrote: »

Take photos of the broken pavement and write a letter to your council about the whole situation and that you would like them to put a traffic order in place to stop HGV traffic. Take the registration of the HGV and include this with a witness statement that you and other residents, who you could supply names address of if required, witnessed the lorry breaking the pavement. and request that the highways department persue the lorry insurers for costs of repair to the highway. You could include a local petition from residents. Copy the letter to you local councillor.

Write a similar grievance letter to the garage owner asking why they allow this to continue, and again copy the letter to your councillor....

Put CC councillor XXX on the letterhead and within the body of the letter mention that you have copied this letter to your councillor - so that you can be sure they understand the letter has been copied.

And whilst you're putting together your anti-HGV NIMBY rant, remember that it would be hypocritical to buy anything that has had a lorry involved in its manufacture or delivery so you shouldn't do so.

It does have the slight inconvenience of meaning you'll have to grow your own food but remember you can't use seeds bought in a shop because they were transported by lorry.

Wig

That's a little over the top reply for what is in essence an articulated lorry innappropriately using a small residential cul de sac, don't you think?

Norman_Castle

I just want to add that the council have told the garage not to allow lorries to use the close, which is why they boarded up the gates, but the lorry driver said his firm has "told" him to use it.

Contact the council again and if they agree that HGVs should not use the road ask them to restrict the road with a weight or size limit.

olly300

Notmyrealname wrote: »

And whilst you're putting together your anti-HGV NIMBY rant, remember that it would be hypocritical to buy anything that has had a lorry involved in its manufacture or delivery so you shouldn't do so.

HGVs shouldn't be going down roads that are unsuitable for them.

I live in an area where due to a low railway bridge 3 roads have width restrictions on them to stop HGVs using them as short cuts.

Every now and again the bollards on these width restrictions are knocked over. Luckily the drivers so far have been able to read the signs and have not tried to go under the railway bridge.

Yes this does mean the fire engine drivers need to know how to avoid the bridge which isn't a problem if you know the area or are directed by someone who knows the area when there is a major incident.