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Halifax withdraw their signed mortgage offer just before contract exchange

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  • kingstreet
    kingstreet Posts: 39,277 Forumite
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    Given this is a standard rule across most of the UK lending industry, I'd expect an agent selling a property to someone needing a mortgage to ensure this was disclosed early in the sale process.
    The EA already complete a couple of sales for them the other lenders have no problems at all
    Which may purely have been coincidental. Did the agent tell those buyers or were they just lucky?
    I am a mortgage broker. You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. Please do not send PMs asking for one-to-one-advice, or representation.
  • silentfire
    silentfire Posts: 10 Forumite
    My solicitor said:

    The problem is that the seller's solicitor only recently send us copies of the title register with their name on it. We were working on the old title register in the mean time. No one was therefore to know that the seller had only bought in December. The seller and agent should have said something at the start but they owe you no duty of care and you are not entitled to compensation. We can ask but I don?t hold out much hope. How much did you spend in getting the Halifax mortgage?

    So does that means I'm doomed? No one tells me it might be a problem that they own the property for too short time because they are not liable to do so; and no one tells me they do care about this because it's rare?
  • MissMoneypenny
    MissMoneypenny Posts: 5,324 Forumite
    edited 8 March 2012 at 3:04PM
    silentfire wrote: »
    The seller is big investor who buy portfolios and sell them.

    Then he should have known about the 6 month rule as it has been commonplace for quite a while. Landlord sites like the singingpigs, are well aware of this as it upset many a plan when it first came out.

    Did he tell you he had owned the property for less than 6 months, or did he keep quiet about it?
    RENTING? Have you checked to see that your landlord has permission from their mortgage lender to rent the property? If not, you could be thrown out with very little notice.
    Read the sticky on the House Buying, Renting & Selling board.


  • MissMoneypenny
    MissMoneypenny Posts: 5,324 Forumite
    silentfire wrote: »
    So does that means I'm doomed? No one tells me it might be a problem that they own the property for too short time because they are not liable to do so; and no one tells me they do care about this because it's rare?

    Doomed...or a lucky escape? Do you want to do business with someone who is unethical?
    RENTING? Have you checked to see that your landlord has permission from their mortgage lender to rent the property? If not, you could be thrown out with very little notice.
    Read the sticky on the House Buying, Renting & Selling board.


  • silentfire
    silentfire Posts: 10 Forumite
    Then he should have known about the 6 month rule as it has been commonplace for quite a while. Landlord sites like the singingpigs, are well aware of this as it upset many a plan when it first came out.

    Did he tell you he had owned the property for less than 6 months, or did he keep quiet about it?

    No, the first time I know about six month is when Halifax told me that they are going to withdraw the offer.
  • kingstreet
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    The agent wants to sell a property to ensure he gets paid as quickly as possible. Witholding the ownership duration has caused you a problem which means you're going to have to find a new lender because the one you chose won't accept the situation. That means the agent will not be paid as quickly and may lose the sale altogether.

    You can't hold the vendor, or his agent, or legal representative responsible, so you are understandably looking for someone else to blame.

    My opinion, FWIW, is that blaming a bloke sitting in a Halifax office for not asking you about this is unfair. However, if you feel you have been wrongly dealt with, make a written complaint to Halifax and see what they think. If they don't answer your complaint to your satisfaction, or within eight weeks, you have the right to escalate the matter to the Financial Ombudsman Service for arbitration.
    I am a mortgage broker. You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. Please do not send PMs asking for one-to-one-advice, or representation.
  • silentfire
    silentfire Posts: 10 Forumite
    kingstreet wrote: »
    The agent wants to sell a property to ensure he gets paid as quickly as possible. Witholding the ownership duration has caused you a problem which means you're going to have to find a new lender because the one you chose won't accept the situation. That means the agent will not be paid as quickly and may lose the sale altogether.

    You can't hold the vendor, or his agent, or legal representative responsible, so you are understandably looking for someone else to blame.

    My opinion, FWIW, is that blaming a bloke sitting in a Halifax office for not asking you about this is unfair. However, if you feel you have been wrongly dealt with, make a written complaint to Halifax and see what they think. If they don't answer your complaint to your satisfaction, or within eight weeks, you have the right to escalate the matter to the Financial Ombudsman Service for arbitration.

    Thanks for the advice. What should I do next? Should I looking for another lender who don't care or walk away?
  • MissMoneypenny
    MissMoneypenny Posts: 5,324 Forumite
    He would be wasting his/her time blaming the Halifax. The vendor and maybe the EA is to blame, but as the solicitor has already told them, they are not entitled to compensation.

    Either stay with the snake in the grass and look for another lender who allow this. Or more on, find another property and leave the vendor of the first house, back at square 1.
    RENTING? Have you checked to see that your landlord has permission from their mortgage lender to rent the property? If not, you could be thrown out with very little notice.
    Read the sticky on the House Buying, Renting & Selling board.


  • The_J
    The_J Posts: 1,250 Forumite
    If you really want the property kick off to the estate agents for not mentioning it, make them feel bad enough to take it off the market again and give you 4 weeks to sort out a new mortgage.
    The J is a Financial Advisor-This site doesn't check anyone's status and as such any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. Always seek professional advice.
  • kingstreet
    kingstreet Posts: 39,277 Forumite
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    Only you can decide on your next step. Using an independent or whole market broker may result in you finding a better mortgage deal (Halifax aren't great right now) and allowing you to proceed with the purchase.

    Alternatively, if you feel you don't wish to purchase this property, withdraw your offer and start looking for something else. Halifax should allow you to change to another property and only have another valuation fee to pay.
    I am a mortgage broker. You should note that this site doesn't check my status as a Mortgage Adviser, so you need to take my word for it. This signature is here as I follow MSE's Mortgage Adviser Code of Conduct. Any posts on here are for information and discussion purposes only and shouldn't be seen as financial advice. Please do not send PMs asking for one-to-one-advice, or representation.
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