Motorway services

nomadjb

taffy056 wrote: »

No just ignore it, and file it in the Nigerian Scam file that you may or may not have

Ok I did consider the "pending" tray as my African tray is full to over flowing with used notes....:)

give_them_FA

Did you mean the third letter? Do not return post. Keep it in case the opportunity presents itself to sue for harassment. Also, if you send the message that the address isn't valid that may actually encourage them to sue as they will think you may not get the papers and they can get a "win" by default.

nomadjb

give_them_FA wrote: »

Did you mean the third letter? Do not return post. Keep it in case the opportunity presents itself to sue for harassment. Also, if you send the message that the address isn't valid that may actually encourage them to sue as they will think you may not get the papers and they can get a "win" by default.

Thanks for that....I got two "invoices" on the same trip one from Parking Pie and another from UK...todays letter was the third from Porky Pie....

hello_sunshine

This has happened to me too, but I was in a hire car so it got paid automatically then taken out of my deposit! No way to refuse to pay it!
When you can be done for driving without due care and attention when you're tired, shouldn't there be some sort of mandated rest area where you can get sufficient rest free of charge, like the aires they have in France?
Unlike A roads, which do have laybys,if you're doing a long drive in this country on the motorways there is nowhere to stop and rest that isn't geared towards making you pay money.
If the government want to carry on putting messages on the motorway and on the radio saying "don't drive tired", they should make sure there is some way to get adequate rest without being charged for it!
I'm considering writing to my MP about this, since it's clearly a road safety issue!

Half_way

hello_sunshine wrote: »

This has happened to me too, but I was in a hire car so it got paid automatically then taken out of my deposit! No way to refuse to pay it!

check your hire company terms and conditions if it only mentions fines and statory charges you may be able to claim your money back, as in most cases the hire company will be in breach of contract by handing this money over.
its in the hire companys own interests to chage this as most of them will stick on an aditional administration cahrge.
if you want more help with this start a new topic on something like Hire company charged me for a Private parking charge, and some one with more knowledge on this than me may be able to help you to reclaim any monoey lost plus charges, and educate the hire comany into the correct rules/the law at the same time so other people will not get caught out.

The_Slithy_Tove

hello_sunshine wrote: »

This has happened to me too, but I was in a hire car so it got paid automatically then taken out of my deposit! No way to refuse to pay it!

Once you've checked the Ts&Cs of the hire agreement, and confirmed that it ony talks about fines & penalties, you neeed to get back to the rental company, and demand that they refund your money, as their deduction was not covered by the terms of the agreement. They should fully understand that PPC tickets are not fines, and they are not responsible for them. No doubt the hire company slapped a healthy (for them) "admin fee" on top, thus making them part of the problem, not the solution.

give_them_FA

Hello_sunshine, every one sees drivers as being a legitimate target for scam charges. In your case the hire company is getting in on the act as I would bet they have added an administration charge for wrongfully paying a charge that wasn't due.

One letter requesting it back; followed by a claim in the Small Claims court for breach of contract if they don't comply.

They know (or ought to know, as the legal phrase goes) that this scam charge is NOT covered by their T & Cs; but the temptation of cashing in on the back of it is too great. They will realise the error of their ways when they have to pay you back plus fees and costs.

Use the county court, it is very consumer friendly!

Stephen_Leak

Let's face it, drivers are seen as legitimate targets by almost everyone.

As one of our PPC spies has said, us simply getting the few victims who come to us for help to ignore and not pay has very little effect on their revenue. Regretfully, most pay the ransom.

But the PPC losing, for example, £1000 plus costs per case, should make things a bit different. And also suing the car park owner, especially the big supermarkets, should result in lucrative contracts being lost. And then, there is the publicity that all of this should generate. One supermarket getting sued should make the others "wake up and smell the coffee".

PS. I would agree about the County Courts. They go out of their way to be friendly. If anyone is really worried, they will be more than happy to show you around first. The "courtroom" is a meeting room, with a big table and chairs. The judge won't be in a red robe and wig, in fact these days, I wouldn't even put money on a suit or tie!

PPS. One thing though. Most courts have a metal detector security gate. Don't take a penknife, and also check your pockets for any foil wrapped condoms! :embarasse

Half_way

Stephen_Leak wrote: »

Let's face it, drivers are seen as legitimate targets by almost everyone.

As one of our PPC spies has said, us simply getting the few victims who come to us for help to ignore and not pay has very little effect on their revenue. Regretfully, most pay the ransom.

But the PPC losing, for example, £1000 plus costs per case, should make things a bit different. And also suing the car park owner, especially the big supermarkets, should result in lucrative contracts being lost. And then, there is the publicity that all of this should generate. One supermarket getting sued should make the others "wake up and smell the coffee".

PS. I would agree about the County Courts. They go out of their way to be friendly. If anyone is really worried, they will be more than happy to show you around first. The "courtroom" is a meeting room, with a big table and chairs. The judge won't be in a red robe and wig, in fact these days, I wouldn't even put money on a suit or tie!

PPS. One thing though. Most courts have a metal detector security gate. Don't take a penknife, and also check your pockets for any foil wrapped condoms! :embarasse

If most people are intimidated into paying up, then even the odd thousand pound loss could be, and probably is seen as colateral damagemost of these companies are probably raking it in, and £1,000 in the grand scheme of things is peanuts.

give_them_FA

Half_way wrote: »

If most people are intimidated into paying up, then even the odd thousand pound loss could be, and probably is seen as colateral damagemost of these companies are probably raking it in, and £1,000 in the grand scheme of things is peanuts.

£1,000 may be peanuts. That isn't the strategy. The soft underbelly will always be the landowners- supermarkets and the like. They will soon get totally stuffed about the adverse publicity and decide that, hey, maybe it was better to just have the odd car parked badly in a bay than to be ostracised in the local and even national papers, and decide they can manage well without a car park cowboy after all.....