Signing on TV programmes

shaun_from_Africa

The problem may be that not everyone has a digital TV, and this may be even more common with a lot of elderly people who either can't afford to buy a new set whilst the old one is still working, or don't want to get rid of their old trusty set and have to buy a new (and possibly far more complicated) model.

However, once the digital switchover happens and everyone will have to go digital, the BBC may well have an interactive signing option.

biscit

vyle wrote: »

I've often wondered why BBC doesn't just have signing as an interactive alternative screen option through the red button.

If there was any "just" to that idea I'm sure they would have done it by now.

munchpot

There are quite strict rules for broadcasters about signing, subtitling and Audio Descriton. They all come under the banner 'Access Services' and are regulated by Ofcom. Broadcasters have targets imposed on the amount of each service they have to provide. Failure to do so puts them in breach of the Ofcom licence.

At the moment the only way for everyone to see signing is to have it 'burnt into the programme' as it is now, as the service has to be available to all and not everyone is digital yet! That's why broadcasters are allow to tramsmit the programmess overnight / early morning for the deaf community to record.

Until recently the signing requirement applied to everyone which meant that certain music channels were required to provide signed music videos. If you though the Victoria Wood sketch was funny you should have seen some of those videos! The very same people you see signing the news programmes were also getting down to Beyonce!

now music channels make a contribution to the Community Channel who broadcast signed content rather than have to sign music videos

Becles

The signed music ones are on You Tube.

I'm amazed at how she manages to keep up with the rapper in this one!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cUJbe5mls5Y

vyle

munchpot wrote: »

There are quite strict rules for broadcasters about signing, subtitling and Audio Descriton. They all come under the banner 'Access Services' and are regulated by Ofcom. Broadcasters have targets imposed on the amount of each service they have to provide. Failure to do so puts them in breach of the Ofcom licence.

At the moment the only way for everyone to see signing is to have it 'burnt into the programme' as it is now, as the service has to be available to all and not everyone is digital yet! That's why broadcasters are allow to tramsmit the programmess overnight / early morning for the deaf community to record.

Until recently the signing requirement applied to everyone which meant that certain music channels were required to provide signed music videos. If you though the Victoria Wood sketch was funny you should have seen some of those videos! The very same people you see signing the news programmes were also getting down to Beyonce!

now music channels make a contribution to the Community Channel who broadcast signed content rather than have to sign music videos

That makes a lot of sense actually. Ta.

Just watched that video of signed dirge, and I've always wondered this:

Why do signers gurn so much? Is that part of the signing, or just something people do for the fun of it? They pull such ridiculous expressions, I kinda hope it has a point, seeing as I presume the people signing can hear so aren't influenced by being deaf.

Doom_and_Gloom

They aren't gurning *rolls eyes*. In BSL you use your face and body language just as much as your hands to communicate. It is all a part of the language.

I've watched a few late night films and programmes with the signer in the corner and the screen in 3/4 mode (which as stated is probably due to older TV's still being out there or even because of the budget in recording the signer). It is fine watching the signer and watching the programme. No I'm not deaf but I do know BSL and watching such things makes me better/I learn more signs etc. If you are used to the signing (which I am getting used to now as I will have to for later exams) it is possible to watch both, simular to how a person reads subtitles and still can watch what is going on.

Owain_Moneysaver

Moglex wrote: »

There was a comedy show sketch years ago where a newsreader complained about having someone "flapping their arms about" in front of her and started using every more complicated words until the poor woman gave up.

Do that without chipping your nail varnish

Taiko

I remember the comedian Adam Hills doing several stand up shows with a sign interpreter to the side of the stage. And a deaf person in the audience managing to heckle via sign language given to the interpreter.

vyle

Doom_and_Gloom wrote: »

They aren't gurning *rolls eyes*. In BSL you use your face and body language just as much as your hands to communicate. It is all a part of the language.

I've watched a few late night films and programmes with the signer in the corner and the screen in 3/4 mode (which as stated is probably due to older TV's still being out there or even because of the budget in recording the signer). It is fine watching the signer and watching the programme. No I'm not deaf but I do know BSL and watching such things makes me better/I learn more signs etc. If you are used to the signing (which I am getting used to now as I will have to for later exams) it is possible to watch both, simular to how a person reads subtitles and still can watch what is going on.

Thanks, I genuinely had no idea. I thought it was all in the hands, and the faces were something the signer did when they got bored :rotfl:

stephen77

what is wrong with optional subtitles? i do not know how many deaf people can not read?