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ESA for the blind/dead - a MUCH more generous interpretation?

Previously, ESA was not claimable by many blind people.
This seems to have been somewhat overturned.
http://www.dwp.gov.uk/docs/m3-12update.pdf - is recent guidance that popped up in my email today.

If I'm understanding this correctly, it means that anyone who is blind enough to not be able to read 16 point type, and does not read braille, will be granted the support group.

"This means a person with normal hearing ability who understands the spoken word
without difficulty but has visual impairment to the extent they cannot read 16 point
print nor read Braille would meet Support Group criteria in this activity.
"

As will someone with profound deafness, who can't read lips.
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  • emsywoo123
    emsywoo123 Posts: 5,440 Forumite
    I'm so sorry to giggle, but please check the title of your thread :D
  • rogerblack
    rogerblack Posts: 9,446 Forumite
    emsywoo123 wrote: »
    I'm so sorry to giggle, but please check the title of your thread :D
    Argh.
    Regrettably, the dead still have to pass the WCA to get ESA.
    Sorry for misleading any zombies out there.
  • sunnyone
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    Thats interesting, Totals cant lip read as they have no comprehension of speech as they cant talk and up till now that wasnt enough to get into the support group.
  • Muttleythefrog
    Muttleythefrog Posts: 20,546 Forumite
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    Damn... thought I'd finally found a thread relevant to my circumstances..lol
    "Do not attribute to conspiracy what can adequately be explained by incompetence" - rogerblack
  • paddedjohn
    paddedjohn Posts: 7,512 Forumite
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    Well there are quite a few dead heads claiming round this way.
    Be Alert..........Britain needs lerts.
  • Ninko
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    rogerblack wrote: »
    Previously, ESA was not claimable by many blind people.
    This seems to have been somewhat overturned.
    - is recent guidance that popped up in my email today.

    If I'm understanding this correctly, it means that anyone who is blind enough to not be able to read 16 point type, and does not read braille, will be granted the support group.

    "This means a person with normal hearing ability who understands the spoken word
    without difficulty but has visual impairment to the extent they cannot read 16 point
    print nor read Braille would meet Support Group criteria in this activity."

    As will someone with profound deafness, who can't read lips.

    Has this been confimed?

    As I am registered blind (have been since I was a child), I'm terrified they will put me in the Work Group.


    Ninko
  • kingfisherblue
    kingfisherblue Posts: 9,203 Forumite
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    I'm beginning to read more about ESA, as my son will have to claim it in the future. He has complex needs and will be unable to work.

    He currently needs glasses, but still struggles with smaller print. He also needs a hearing aid in his left ear, and is awaiting the fitting of an aid in his right ear. Even if he could read and hear, though, he still has learning difficulties and a long list of health problems and physical disabilities.

    I don't really want him to be dead to qualify :p
  • Ninko
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    Ninko wrote: »
    Has this been confimed?

    As I am registered blind (have been since I was a child), I'm terrified they will put me in the Work Group.


    Ninko

    Does anyone know?

    Everywhere I've read online, it says being only blind, regardless of how bad won't get you in the Support Group.

    Please help if you know, this whole thing is really worrying me.


    Ninko
  • nannytone_2
    nannytone_2 Posts: 13,004 Forumite
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    being registered blind will NOT get you into the support group. in fact, if you cope too well with your sight loss, wou will fail the medical and be expected to claim JSA.

    to get in the support group, you would need to have other disabilities/ ilness'
  • rogerblack
    rogerblack Posts: 9,446 Forumite
    The document remains on the DWP website, and is still in the decision-makers-guide, with a note that it should be added to existing training materials, and that it will be incorporated in the next revision.

    As I understand it, this is a matter that requires no change in the law - it can be done with simply a change in DWP policy.

    You could either try to get escalated up to a decision-maker from calling the helpline, or make a specific query in writing.

    Decisionmakers are supposed to follow the DMG - them not doing so may be grounds for an appeal.
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