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Work for benefits?
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Surely nobody getting JSA is expected to live on it ??
(except perhaps youngsters still suported in parents home)
I get sick of hearing about people trying to live on JSA etc (67.50?)
Its !!!!!!!! they get housing benefit free prescriptions free school meals etc etc etc.
add it all up its more than some earn.
Too many people in this country want something for doing fu.. all.
If you have never contributed into the system you should have to work for benefits, even picking up litter. I dont personally care what !!!! they are doing, as long as they are made to get up and do something.0 -
Nobody getting Contribution-Based JSA (i.e. those who have paid in via the NI scheme) is being offered these work-experience opportunities. They are reserved for those who have not contributed, at least not recently.
But they will contribute/have contributed at some point.:cool:Always remember that you're unique, just like everybody else:cool:0 -
I get sick of hearing about people trying to live on JSA etc (67.50?)
Its !!!!!!!! they get housing benefit free prescriptions free school meals etc etc etc.
add it all up its more than some earn.
Too many people in this country want something for doing fu.. all.
If you have never contributed into the system you should have to work for benefits, even picking up litter. I dont personally care what !!!! they are doing, as long as they are made to get up and do something.
And take away all that and they are still left with £67.50.
The other option is to throw them on the streets and put the kids in care which apart from the social consequences costs alot more.
I`m not against people doing something for their money but if litter needs picking up then that in itself is a job so should be paid.:cool:Always remember that you're unique, just like everybody else:cool:0 -
It wouldnt surprise me if people who work for the companys in the workfare scheme start losing their jobs to the people who were forced to work for their benefits.
Its already happening. The Tesco ads for shift work in various distribution centres across the country - they are paid positions which were being advertised as JSA. I've read various posts across a number of forums where people working at Tesco have JSA people in their store and are suddenly having their paid hours cut back or vacancies not being filled.
I have absolutely no objections in principle to work experience for the long term unemployed. If you've been out of work for a while you may well need a refresher course, so lets tailor those to suit what the individuals in question need. And lets have them working in the community or charity sectors so that they're additional to not replacement for proper employment.
The problem is that the government isn't interested in individuals. Companies like A4E processed everyone as if they were all illiterate morons and pocketed a fortune for their "help". And for all that cretins like Grayling can bleat on about "its not slavery", a scheme that allows the likes of Tesco to replace paid labour with free labour gets very close to it. The public wouldn't stand for it, the companies don't want the publicity and so the scheme is collapsing.
Its yet another masterstroke of political management. A public willing to put up with treating anyone on benefits as a no good scrounger, and yet the scheme they comes up with manages to create the idea in people's heads that part of the reason people are unemployed is because proper jobs are being replaced by slave labour use of people on the dole. If Iannucci hasn't written series 4 of The Thick of It, he has plenty of material he can look at here!0 -
Thats because anyone able to work, not working after the grace period on JSA that is part of this scheme, IS a workshy scrounger.0
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And take away all that and they are still left with £67.50.
The other option is to throw them on the streets and put the kids in care which apart from the social consequences costs alot more.
I`m not against people doing something for their money but if litter needs picking up then that in itself is a job so should be paid.:cool:
Why should it? If I see litter on the street or on the side of the road, I pick it up and bin it. Whilst thinking the individual that littered intentionally should be castrated.
The workfare scheme will provide a moral compass that for generations, their gene pool has not provided.
All I hear from the lefties on here is whining about the "damage to society" that the Conservatives are doing. Look in the mirror. multigenerational benefits claimants and using the welfare state as a means of living (circa 40%+ of the population in some northern towns and cities) has caused the biggest damage to society, whilst bleeding the hardest working in taxes to pay for it. Why was it done? To buy votes off the great unwashed, pure and simple.0 -
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Tell me how much personal development you see from someone dole scounging? I dont see much. Thats because the sort that dont have employment after 6 months have something missing. Its called a work ethic. There is plenty of work, you may have to up sticks to find it, but its there for the taking. If that means learining a new laguage, brushing up on your IT skills, whatever, you need to demonstrate to an employer you havent stagnated.
Unfortunately, all I see are unemployeds down the local library not looking up personal improvement books or enrolling on computer based learning, but smoking cigarettes in between browsing youtube, facebook and having left wing rants on HPC.0 -
Rochdale_Pioneers wrote: »Ah, so there are enough jobs available to everyone on the dole!
Thats good news...... :rotfl:
If there werent enough jobs, workfare wouldnt work would it? :beer:0
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