Tenant not paid rent - precautionary steps to take?

Notmyrealname

red_devil wrote: »

I hope they leave after this and you get someone horrible in. I wasnt abusing you i was expressing disgust at the way you were thinking about your long term tenants.

Would you like some cheese to go with that whine?

tbs624

red_devil wrote: »

So you have had a reliable tenant looking after your property for years and now because they MIGHT default on one months rent you are looking to get them out.

I think its disgusting:mad: and it just confirms to me what they say about landlords.

Your interpretation of what the OP says is unbalanced. See my further comments below.

DominicJ wrote: »

They've done the right thing, and given you as much notice as they could that the rent will be delayed.

The OP acknowledged earlier that the T had communicated with him and that this was a good thing

DominicJ wrote: »

For you to use that courtesy as an eviction point seems obscene

Perhaps you do not understand that a S21 is merely a min two month Notice of Intent to seek repossession of the property *after* a specific date, if necessary. Service of a S21 is not "an eviction point" as such.

As non- paying Ts can sit tight until the LL has then obtained a court order, and sought the services of bailiffs, LLs need to be prepared in advance. Ts can defeat S8 hearings by paying down the rent prior to any court hearing

The OP specifically said:

I'm fairly confident they will come up with it but I'm not sure what steps we should start to take if they don't.

Do we issue a S21 now just in case?

my bolding.

DominicJ wrote: »

Personaly, and this is just me, If had a 4 year tenant, who'd never missed a payment, in trouble, I'd be helping.?

T is obliged to pay the rent in full and on time, regardless of how long they have been at the property.

The OP was prepared to wait, given what he had posted here, but - to reiterate - was seeking views on protection *if* the payment was not forthcoming.

Notmyrealname

red_devil wrote: »

There are people who dislike some landlords they dont exactly always get a good press do they? Otherwise they wouldnt have programmes like landlords from hell would they?

Unfortunately making tv programmes about tenants from hell doesn't seem likely to happen. There are far more bad tenants than landlords.

I think some landlords do keep taking money and doing very little on the house etc and when they do its the cheapest of the cheap all the time. It may be a business but in some respects it could be classed as a cowboy business.

And there are many many landlords who are the complete opposite but you don't hear about those and it doesn't occur in the tiny mind of someone like you that this could be the case.

red_devil

lovinituk wrote: »

You're absolutely right!

We were 'accidental' landlords in that we kept my wifes property when she moved in with me over 10 years ago. We have always been really good landlords and gone out of our way to look after our tenants and we have been lucky to always have had good tenants. The current tenant is DSS that many landlords wouldn't have. We don't rely on the money from the rent other than to pay its mortgage and other expenses relating to that property and we always keep this pot of money to cover any problems - many landlords don't do anything like this. Overall I would say we are very good landlords but even we wouldn't let anyone stay rent free.

I'd accept people having a go if I was just wanting to get rid of the tenant asap but that has clearly never been the case.

People see 'landlord' and the hate fills their belly so much they can't even read a thread properly. Jealousy? Had bad experiences as tenants themselves? Maybe! I think there is also a fair share of idiots who just like to have a bash from the safety of behind their keyboards!!

If you post on a forum you have to accept what comes along as I do when i post. Your post came across as nasty even if you didnt mean it to be. You were jumping the gun for sure. However you did explain it, the post went quiet and you should have left it at that. You then came back to argue your point so you are not exactly innocent and you are doing your fair share of arguing arent you?

Why do people have to be jealous of you cos you have a house to rent out it sounds a whole load of hassle to me. We can have an opinion on how you should be valueing (sp) your tenants it dosent mean its jealousy.

lovinituk

red_devil wrote: »

There are people who dislike some landlords they dont exactly always get a good press do they? Otherwise they wouldnt have programmes like landlords from hell would they?

I think some landlords do keep taking money and doing very little on the house etc and when they do its the cheapest of the cheap all the time. It may be a business but in some respects it could be classed as a cowboy business.

An old lady who lives near me has just moved out from her home into a nursing home she was 99 and had lived in the house for 70 odd years. I actually saw her kitchen and It was awful it wasnt a proper kitchen and it hadnt been done for years god knows when. She paid all that rent and they never put a proper kitchen in for her. She was living like that in awful conditions yet still the rent kept going up. I think most people would agree to leave people living in awful conditions while you continue to make money isnt really on. I expect her rest home is more comfortable for her.

So you decided to tar me with the same brush even though you know nothing about me and nothing in this thread indicated me being a bad landlord?!? Thanks for that!!

red_devil

Notmyrealname wrote: »

Unfortunately making tv programmes about tenants from hell doesn't seem likely to happen. There are far more bad tenants than landlords.


And there are many many landlords who are the complete opposite but you don't hear about those and it doesn't occur in the tiny mind of someone like you that this could be the case.

I havent got a tiny mind tar. Sorry whether landlords like it or not they will always be knows for hiking up rent and not doing repairs its life.

red_devil

lovinituk wrote: »

So you decided to tar me with the same brush even though you know nothing about me and nothing in this thread indicated me being a bad landlord?!? Thanks for that!!

I didnt decide to tar you with the same brush. I have explained that i was saying you were jumping the gun and it came across like you were already thinking of chucking them out. If i were you I would have let your thread go quiet and die down it was doing until you came back.

tbs624

red_devil wrote: »

If you post on a forum you have to accept what comes along as I do when i post. Your post came across as nasty even if you didnt mean it to be. You were jumping the gun for sure.

Always best with online postings to check that you personally have not drawn an incorrect interpretation - as you can see, an OP asking " if this happens , should I be doing that?" is not construed by other readers as either "jumping the gun" or "nasty".

lovinituk

red_devil wrote: »

If you post on a forum you have to accept what comes along as I do when i post. Your post came across as nasty even if you didnt mean it to be. You were jumping the gun for sure.

I'm still interested to hear how it came across as nasty - care to explain?

I wasn't really jumping the gun, even though I said that myself, because I was asking how to prepare for taking action. Even issuing a S21 doesn't mean it has to be enforced - it just gets things started at the earliest possible opportunity just in case.

red_devil wrote: »

However you did explain it, the post went quiet and you should have left it at that. You then came back to argue your point so you are not exactly innocent and you are doing your fair share of arguing arent you?

Why should I have left it at that? Are you the forum police now? I didn't like what you said so I told you so because none of it was based on facts - it was all based on your assumptions which were clearly wrong!

red_devil wrote: »

Why do people have to be jealous of you cos you have a house to rent out it sounds a whole load of hassle to me. We can have an opinion on how you should be valueing (sp) your tenants it dosent mean its jealousy.

I never said anyone was jealous. See that thing that looks like '?' after the word - its called a question mark!!

lovinituk

red_devil wrote: »

I didnt decide to tar you with the same brush. I have explained that i was saying you were jumping the gun and it came across like you were already thinking of chucking them out.

Based on yours and 1 other persons assumption and clearly not based on any facts whatsoever.

red_devil wrote: »

If i were you I would have let your thread go quiet and die down it was doing until you came back.

Thankfully I'm not you and I have no problem with the thread continuing.