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  • Davesnave
    Davesnave Posts: 34,741 Forumite
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    edited 12 March 2012 at 10:56PM
    Davesnave do you know who this person is...you seem very well connected, so worth asking i think!

    http://www.growsonyou.com/ilex/photos

    I NEED some things they have pictured ....that floriferous witch hazel is stunning, and a nice colour, i do not like the harsh yellow and have been looking at the warm ornage jelena and orange peel, but theirs is nicer,...,,and the amazing epimedium called cinnabar.....i Neeeeeeeeeeed it!

    Nope, I have no idea, though I'll work on it. Could almost be Docton Mill, but that was a garden before it was 'developed' from the mid 90s, so the timing doesn't fit either.

    I only know a handful of 'garden people' relative to the number in existence, and most of those are in your area, not here. Sorry! :o
  • Itismehonest
    Itismehonest Posts: 4,352 Forumite
    Actually i think btl is different, and yes, they are liable for cgt, but not if the ll moves in himself for three months and makes it their home for purposes of selling.

    The problem is different in properties where we both live and work. A more interesti g comparison would be the lodger scenario...where a tax free amount is fine, and tax should payable at threshhold over that allowance. Irony is of course, it pushes things into the cash economy.

    :D CGT is one thing I'm not worried about, LIR. If there's any to pay we'll pay it. It's finding a way to sell it without buyers having interminable hassles.
    The stupid thing is that none of these problems have anything to do with price. All this would be just the same whether the property was £10k, £100k or £1m ........ if the buyer needed a mortgage.
    As you say, it pushes everything into the cash economy.
  • Itismehonest
    Itismehonest Posts: 4,352 Forumite
    edited 12 March 2012 at 9:34PM
    Davesnave wrote: »
    Nope, I have no idea, though I'll work on it. Could almost be Docton Mill, but that was a garden before it was 'developed' from the mid 90s, so the timing doesn't fit either.

    I only know a handful of 'garden people' relative to the number in existence, and most of those are in your area, not here. Sorry! :o

    It's not the woman who turns up regularly on the BBC gardening programmes, is it? Can't think of her name. I'll go hunt & see if I can find her.

    Found her ........ Carol Klein
  • lostinrates
    lostinrates Posts: 55,283 Forumite
    I've been Money Tipped!
    :D CGT is one thing I'm not worried about, LIR. If there's any to pay we'll pay it. It's finding a way to sell it without buyers having interminable hassles.
    The stupid thing is that none of these problems have anything to do with price. All this would be just the same whether the property was £10k, £100k or £1m ........ if the buyer needed a mortgage.
    As you say, it pushes everything into the cash economy.

    Would the commercial areas be seperatable, and a conditional secondary purpose...or, rozee, would that be an agreement to agree? Then could you sell the business as a liabilty rather than a benefit to the house buyers for a sum they could afford from their overall equity?


    Seems dodgy to me...but if backed into a corner worth investigating legalities i suppose!
  • Davesnave
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    RAS wrote: »
    Teach your kids even now to do their own risk assessments. Discuss the risks, preventive action and potential remedial actions with them before they can talk even.

    Remember it is the strange and unknown that are usually the bigger problems for adults and children, in towns, cities and the countryside. The child who understands tides will not be the adult stuck up a cliff.

    I so agree with this. In another life, I used to help design activities to teach life-skills to very townie children aged 10-11. We would take them out to a rural environment for the day and set up scenarios that they had to respond to. This was the culmination of many weeks worth of theory.

    Invariably, it was the bright, middle class children we caught out most, their 'manners' often trapping them in situations where a less polite approach was called for. For example, nice girls would rush into the woods to assist a good looking, baseball-capped man find his lost puppy. (Well, he was carrying a lead, wasn't he, so it must be true!)

    It was the rougher, tougher boys who physically stopped farmer Giles going back into his burning barn to rescue the puppies, not the 'brainy' ones, who proudly announced "We went in and turned the smoke machine and the tape recorder off!" :rotfl:

    Mind you, we got the tough guys later in the day. They actually fought to get the front seat in the flash car which was allegedly taking them to the next location....except that the driver had showed no ID, as he should. He was, in fact, a police sergeant, and once he'd locked them in, he was "not very friendly," or so they said. One of the old guard! ;)

    Nowadays, costs have driven that scheme into a purpose built environment housed in an old tobacco warehouse, and I don't think it's half as good. The kids still get to practise real first aid and make 999 calls etc so it's better than nothing.
  • Davesnave
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    It's not the woman who turns up regularly on the BBC gardening programmes, is it? Can't think of her name. I'll go hunt & see if I can find her.

    Found her ........ Carol Klein

    Nope. Been to hers. She's in Warkleigh, and my daughter who's now 22, wet herself there when she was 2 or 3! No river either.
  • Itismehonest
    Itismehonest Posts: 4,352 Forumite
    edited 12 March 2012 at 11:08PM
    Would the commercial areas be seperatable, and a conditional secondary purpose...or, rozee, would that be an agreement to agree? Then could you sell the business as a liabilty rather than a benefit to the house buyers for a sum they could afford from their overall equity?

    Seems dodgy to me...but if backed into a corner worth investigating legalities i suppose!

    Whoa! That's way too involved for my little ol' brain :rotfl:
    I will try to find out what all that means & if it could work. Thank you.
    It, presumably, would be another question to the solicitor (as opposed to a Mortgage Advisor) who I hope to speak to on Wednesday.
    I'll also ask about just returning the cottages to being very well-decorated sheds.
  • Itismehonest
    Itismehonest Posts: 4,352 Forumite
    Davesnave wrote: »
    Nope. Been to hers. She's in Warkleigh, and my daughter who's now 22, wet herself there when she was 2 or 3! No river either.

    OK. it was just a long shot. I wasn't even sure if she was still down at Glebe after last year's fuss. I thought she might have done a Liz Jones & fled ;):rotfl:
  • choille
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    I have a primrose out down the croft - yipee.

    My back is killing me & only got one small veg bed cleared......it's the novelty of doing the gardening that I'm not accustomed to since it's chucked it down since October.

    I'm going to have to move my Crinodendron as it's getting too crowded out where it is - why do I plant things too close together? It looks a bit frosted about its top - cold wind burnt it a little I think. The birds were fairly busy today. I notice so many more than when we first came - must be the sheep dung, hen grain & the different plants & also the fact I feed them?

    I agree about not molly coddling kids, but farms are dangerous places & plenty of accidents abound with machinery & fires too - boys & hay & boxes of matches............
  • alfie_1
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    edited 12 March 2012 at 10:34PM
    evening all.........
    davesnave...you have this knack of remembering the most hilariously obscure moments in your/your families life that makes me laugh my sox off...[child wetting themselves in A spot 20yrs ago !! amongst many others:rotfl::rotfl:] and you say them as casually, like we say "we went shopping".....:D

    to all the legal eagles..... im waving my hand in a motion that sweeps over the top of my head...:rotfl::rotfl: :o

    chook nappers reported to a " oh ,the crown jewels are missing" look........NOT :rotfl::rotfl:

    the weather here has been glorious for days now. walked the dogs along the shore yesterday afternoon in just a T shirt.. today had T breaks ditto at a friends. ive been helping her lay a real wooden floorboards floor in her lounge. its now all batoned,insulated and we started to put the boards down [not nailed yet] to gauge the amount is correct. she has an open 2 sides fireplace with a central 2 door woodstove between the dining room/kitchen and lounge and she was cutting the boards as i yelled measurements in ft and inches. they came "through " the fireplace hole and seemed short...i then saw she was converting my ft/ins to cms and being a twit !!....:D:D i kept saying just measure it,mark it,cut it but she kept saying she couldnt...i was wetting myself laughing !:rotfl::rotfl: ive left her with 8 more to cut, ive marked where to cut em and its now in the lap of the gods ...till wednesday when i return to nail em down !!!! didnt get in till 7pm so ran round locking up/feeding animals... ALL SAFE :):)

    i have lots of watchers on my bay kitchen...:) just got to get them to put "thair and in thair pockit"....:D
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