Noisy neighbour ~ what can I do?

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tenke wrote: »

I had similar problem with some unbearable neighbours in the past, contacted Environmental Health but they are not much help, in cases of " vulnerable people " like noisy children (with unruly parents) or noisy elderly like in your case ...:(

I kept my diary all all, but in the end it was so bad, I had to move, my emotional health was destroyed.

I would suggest asking the Universe ( I know not many people believe in that, but it wouldnt hurt to try, right? If nothing comes out of it, at least you tried even the beyond this physical world to get help :eek::D )

Have a look at this link:

http://thecosmicorderingsite.com/testimonials/inconsiderate-neighbour-moves-out.htm

I have to admit I didnt know about Cosmic ordering at the time, that I was utterly miserable with my neighbours, but if I had found this link, I would have tried this anyway. When you are at the end of the rope, anything you try might help !! :T

Thanks Tenke, I know all about cosmic ordering. I am a converted spiritualist (perhaps this is why I am so tollerant and give an extended chance) but sadly it hasnt worked in this occasion, although I also beleive in Karma! I dont think theyre going to move on other than to pass over in this lifetime anyway!

cottonhead

We had a similar ( well not that similar as you will see ) problem with our neighbour a few years back. They moved in - it was a couple in their 30's and soon after we started hearing really loud sex. Sorry to put it bluntly but it was so loud you could hear every word of what she was shouting out and all the accompanying noises. It was horrid. Ok I am laughing now but at the time it was not nice. We dare not invite anyone round it was so embarassing and you could hear it over the Tv and it even woke us up.
Anyway we didnt know what to do as it was obviously a touchy subject. In the end we decided that although embarassing we couldt live with the noise so my husband knocked on the door and gently told the man ( who he then spotted was wearing 2 hearing aids ) that there was a lot of loud noise and we understand that they probably didnt realise that they were ebing noisy but would they mind trying to be more quiet. The man apologised - said it must be the TV - both of them knew full well it wasnt - and it never happended again !!
In your case I would try writing a letter, explaining the problem and asking for it to be dealt with. Seems a bit formal but then you have a record, there is no case for misunderstanding and if it does go further ( to environmental health) you will need a record of the noise and what you have tried to do to stop it. I agree with the othr posters that she probably doenst realise just how loud the noise is but that doenst mean its OK. Does she own the house ? if not the speak to the landlord / association. If she does then try the letter approach. Jeremy Kyle at normal level is bad enough so I do feel for you. Hope it stops soon.

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cottonhead wrote: »

We had a similar ( well not that similar as you will see ) problem with our neighbour a few years back. They moved in - it was a couple in their 30's and soon after we started hearing really loud sex. Sorry to put it bluntly but it was so loud you could hear every word of what she was shouting out and all the accompanying noises. It was horrid. Ok I am laughing now but at the time it was not nice. We dare not invite anyone round it was so embarassing and you could hear it over the Tv and it even woke us up.
Anyway we didnt know what to do as it was obviously a touchy subject. In the end we decided that although embarassing we couldt live with the noise so my husband knocked on the door and gently told the man ( who he then spotted was wearing 2 hearing aids ) that there was a lot of loud noise and we understand that they probably didnt realise that they were ebing noisy but would they mind trying to be more quiet. The man apologised - said it must be the TV - both of them knew full well it wasnt - and it never happended again !!
In your case I would try writing a letter, explaining the problem and asking for it to be dealt with. Seems a bit formal but then you have a record, there is no case for misunderstanding and if it does go further ( to environmental health) you will need a record of the noise and what you have tried to do to stop it. I agree with the othr posters that she probably doenst realise just how loud the noise is but that doenst mean its OK. Does she own the house ? if not the speak to the landlord / association. If she does then try the letter approach. Jeremy Kyle at normal level is bad enough so I do feel for you. Hope it stops soon.

Thanks We have tried a letter and kept a copy but they both deny ever recieving it (cr*p as I hand delivered a copy to both houses so even if the carers had thrown it he would have had a copy, although I dont think she had carers then anyway).

Yes I agree I loath Jeremy Kyles show at the best of times, its negative and puts me in a bad mood just listening to all the arguing, bickering, yelling, screaming and shouting even at a low level.Whatever time of day, let alone to start the day in that mind set! I bet its one of her favourite programms though

Thanks

paidinchickens

I would go to your doctors as I think you are suffering from extreme stress.

Even if she did not put her TV on you have said she still coughs and sneezes too loudly etc so you are on your last nerves by the sounds of things.

No council will do anything with an elderly deaf person but you could ask the employers of the carers to speak to their workers but this will not make any difference as the carers need to communicate with your neighbour and make sure she understands them.

Could you imagine the headlines in the local paper if they told a "poor old lady banned from watching her tv" or "carers informed not to speak to their client"

I think you are on a loser here.

What does your MIL say about it all? has she rented the house out before and had the same problems? surely if you get help with the rent on this house you could on another even if you had to move to a slightly smaller property etc

Mojisola

paidinchickens wrote: »

Could you imagine the headlines in the local paper if they told a "poor old lady banned from watching her tv" or "carers informed not to speak to their client"

I think you are on a loser here.

It will be more difficult than if you had younger people living next door but not impossible - https://www.liverpoolecho.co.uk/liverpool-news/local-news/2010/07/21/wirral-pensioner-given-asbo-for-playing-loud-music-late-into-the-night-100252-26895400/

paidinchickens

she is not playing loud music or banging on the wall though. The article points to the fact he was doing it on purpose where as the lady next door to the OP is doing normal daily things but just very loudly.

The council will fob you off diary keeping for ever and fill you full of promises but never actually do anything.

No court is going to give her an ASBO for coughing and sneezing too loudly or give an ASBO to her carers for trying to communicate. Even if they did get an ASBO she would break it and who would send her to prison? giving her fines wouldn't help you sleep better.

I think it would be more likely that they would think you were saying this about a poor old lady because she had complained about your dogs barking and you were playing tit for tat. Not being cruel but that is how others would see it.

I am totally sympathetic to the OP as I hate daytime TV but I think he is on a loser here and either hangs on til she gets put in a home or will have to move before he cracks up.

I hope you are getting cheap rent off the MIL for putting up with this noise as I can't see her keeping any other tenants for 6 years as I am sure they would have been gone like a shot.

sassyblue

Just had a thought, is it worth looking into putting some insulation between your houses? To do it really well and hear no noise you'd need to lose a few inches in your home so that some more plaster board can be put up with a space and some insulation between it, then the plasterboard needs reskimming. This is obviously done on the adjoining wall and the result is that you've lost say 6 inches of your room but no noise!!

Worth considering at least, it costs you money but your sanity will be restored.

magenta22

The TV being loud, she can't hear it without the volume being turned up. So saying, if she is that hard or hearing then your dogs wouldn't annoy her.

Could you have a word with her carers and ask them to perhaps have a little word with her about the TV volume at night, perhaps she could put subtitles on in the early hours? You can at least ask them to keep the noise to a respectable level when they visit her.

sock-knitter

sassyblue wrote: »

Just had a thought, is it worth looking into putting some insulation between your houses? To do it really well and hear no noise you'd need to lose a few inches in your home so that some more plaster board can be put up with a space and some insulation between it, then the plasterboard needs reskimming. This is obviously done on the adjoining wall and the result is that you've lost say 6 inches of your room but no noise!!

Worth considering at least, it costs you money but your sanity will be restored.

this s what we had to do in my last house, we did it in every room that adjoined theirs, also slept with ear plugs too, to block out the noisy knocking on the door early morning/late nites

Mupette

My elderly neighbour is also causing issues, she wrote to the council (we are both council tenants) she doesn't like me because i am not elderly and in her view not disabled (i have ms hidden disability etc etc etc)

she complained about the parking space in my garden that it was her's because she said a housing officer told her so, housing officer denied this.

Then last week i get a letter about breach of tenancy... diy noise.
this was actually less than 5 mins of drilling, followed by her banging on the wall..

spoke to the council and they said excessive drilling is a nuisance as far as they are concerned but can see that mine wasn't, and her banging on the wall also breaches the tenancy.

they have her down now as someone who will moan about anything about me just because she doesn't like me, and that the council saw evidence of her dog pooping on my lawn, she didn't like getting told off for that.