hypothetical question if selling a car

cruger

thenudeone wrote: »

Hypothetically - You only gave HIM the right to drive your car, not his friend. If he's then given his friend the keys to drive your car, both he and his friend are guilty of TWOC and / or allowing onesself to be carried in a TWOC'd vehicle. A quick call pointing this out might well create a surprising memory correction and an admission that he was in fact the driver after all.



When you name him as the driver, the police would send him almost the same letter as they sent you, asking him to name the driver. Failing to do so will get him 6 points and a fine.
These things are fairly common. Think of how many company vehicles and lease cars there are where more than one person has permission to drive.

Sorry, I may have confused you.
When I say they I mean He/She the buyer not two friends taking the car for a drive without seller in the car . The situation would be the buyer ( 1 person ) test drive the car and the seller would be sat next to him/her in the passenger seat when the driver (buyer) is caught speeding by rear gatso camera and denies driving saying he/she was the passenger.

captainawsome

Keep hold of his licence while in test. If he gets flashed note down all his details and license number and tell him to expect a ticket in the post. If you have all these details of who was driving I doubt it would carry much weight if he said he was a passenger.

fred7777

cruger wrote: »

Is the onus up to the police or you to prove who was driving at the time. Would the other driver get away with it?

I believe currently the onus is on the owner to tell the police who was driving but on the Police/CPS to prove who was driving if it goes to Court.

Difficult to say if the test driver would get away with it, depends on circumstances, for instance if the Police didn't believe the owner and prosecuted him instead the test driver wouldn't be involved (except as a witness).

AlexisV

If the police came back to you, giving a statement telling the truth about what happened would be enough.

Loganfire

Like most things ifs and buts and what ifs, you should always go with them for a test drive.

[Deleted User]

rexmedorum wrote: »

which sane person buys without a test drive though?

cruger wrote: »

Spot on mate.
I would never buy a vehicle from ebay unless I could see and test drive it prior to making a bid. I am sure ebay advise this and everytime I have watched Wheeler Dealers this is what Mike Brewer does before bidding.

I merely suggested a way out of offering a test drive.

Either allow a test drive and risk points or don't and don't risk points.

I don't know what it is with MSE forums but everything always has to have 20 answers.

TrickyWicky

rexmedorum wrote: »

which sane person buys without a test drive though?

Me and my OH do.

We've had 6 so far and not test driven one of them.

KierNet

scotsman4th wrote: »

Bought 3 motorbikes and 3 cars from ebay without seeing/test driving first and never had a problem.
Ask your questions, look at the sellers feedback and work out if they're trustworthy or not then place your bid.
When you go to pick it up, make sure it's as described then pays your money. If it's not as described, walk away.

If it says 'drives brilliantly' in the ad, you pay the money (without taking it for a test drive first), go to start it up and nothing happens...what would you do then?