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Noisy neighbors :(

kubaroo
kubaroo Posts: 13 Forumite
edited 19 February 2012 at 1:55AM in House buying, renting & selling
Our neighbors moved 2 months ago and weve got plenty of problems with them. First 2 days was fine. Than they start to be loud, they shouting and fighting, sometimes it has happened after 10pm. Once they woke up us at 1:30am. We know how the walls are, we are tolerating some things, but do we have to listen how many and how long and when they having sex :(. Once it happened at 10am, our daughter was afraid, and she asked why our neighbor is yelling, she asked my wife "maybe she needs some help". Our daughter is 9 year old and we cant explain what is going on. Its just happened few minutes ago. They've been so loud hitting the wall by bed that she woke up.

Weve tried to contact their landlord, he came to us and apologise. He said that he cant do nothing with them, the only thing he can do is to talk :(.

We dont know what to do. We thought about council or to talk with police.

Comments

  • I would be worried about neighbours 'jelling' too
    I'm not that way reclined

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  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
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    The landlord cannot control what his tenants do in the privacy of their own home.

    If he is willing, the most he could do is to ask (yes, ASK) them to leave when the fixed term of theit tenancy ends... usually 6 months but maybe 12.

    The fact that the neighbours are tenants is really irrelevant. They could just as easily be owner-occupiers. What you have is a neighbour dispute, not a tenancy dispute, and certainly not a dispute with the LL.

    As with all disputes between neighbours, the best solution is amicable negotiation. Have you discussed wih them? Explained the problem with your 9 year old? Are they even aware how thin the walls are and how much you can hear?

    However, failing that, the council should have a noise officer or similar. They can
    * give you a diary to diarise all noise, what time, what date, what kind, how loud etc to build up a history of how sever it is
    * give you a monitor to record deibels
    * act as a mediator to discuss the problem with the neighbours
    * take enforcement action

    However be aware all this takes time.

    I doubt the police would get involved unless it escalates into a breach of the peace/threats (ie you complain, they threaten you physically in retaliation.....)
  • kubaroo
    kubaroo Posts: 13 Forumite
    Neighbours from the other side talk to them, they've been aware that they are too loud, that the walls are so thin that we can hear what theyre talking about. Once, when theyve been too loud, we knock the wall to give them sign that we can hear them, they start singing :).

    I forgot to mention, that their landlord said to call the police next time. He said that police should contact him, and he will have the reason to kick them out.
  • G_M
    G_M Posts: 51,977 Forumite
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    Knocking on the walls will only aggravate the problem... as you have found out by the singing! Tit for tat escalation.

    Personal direct friendly approach is the best hope. OK, they may be rude and inconsiderate and not respond to the personal approach, but I can guarantee that an indirect, 'agressive' act, like banging on the walls, will make things worse.

    Have you spoken to them yourself? You may be intimidated, but if you can, this has a far higher chance of success than calling the police etc.

    So. The LL recomended the police? In other words "Nothing I can do."

    And if the police contact him he will "have the reason to kick them out."??? :rotfl:

    He will still have to get a court possession order. This will

    a) cost him money in court fees
    b) lose him money in rent (if successful)
    c) cost him money (if successful) in vindictive damage they do before they leave
    d) take several months (if successful)
    e) probobly not be sucessful!
  • poppysarah
    poppysarah Posts: 11,522 Forumite
    Football rattles and whistles when they finish.

    Or report it to environmental section at the council who will have a noise officer.


    Search for "sex noise woman evicted" to see examples of where action has been taken.
  • kubaroo
    kubaroo Posts: 13 Forumite
    Hi its me again:) nothing change with my neighbours. They ve been having sex in the middle of the day so loud that my 2 years old son start to yeal like her !!!!!

    their landlord ask me to make photo of their dog, cause they cant have animals and he prove that theyve got he could kick them out. Is it possible for him to do that?
  • mimimt
    mimimt Posts: 65 Forumite
    This must be a nightmare. But at least the landlord has been understanding of your situation. Sometimes the landlord just hides behind the curtains as if nothing's happening.

    Having pets, if not allowed as per tenancy agreement, would be a breach to the terms. I think the tenants have an opportunity correct it, i.e. get rid of their dog (although that would be really sad and unfortunate for the dog). If they don't, I think the landlord can evict them, but this can be costly and long.
  • Yorkie1
    Yorkie1 Posts: 12,088 Forumite
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    The LL can evict them at the end of their fixed term tenancy without needing evidence or any reason.

    He can try to evict them, I think during the tenancy (but might well be wrong) for breaches of the tenancy - but I think this particular suggested breach re the dog is not a mandatory ground for eviction (i.e. it's up to the court's discretion) and is probably unlikely to succeed without more.

    I'd continue to let your 2-year scream and shout at them when they go at it like rabbits and make such a noise; you never know, it might just shame them into shutting up!
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