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  • pitkin2020
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    ohblimey wrote: »
    How about looking at 1and1, they have several packages to suit the small or large business

    Or Actinic, again they have different packages

    They are ok but like most software you are limited to what the designers of said software have given you.

    Things like opencart are opensource, they are basically enhanced by the users and the possibilities are pretty limitless, you aren't confined with the restrictions of the software.

    Actinic is £19+vat per month minimum. You could have something a lot better for a 1/4 of that price without the restrictions.
    Everyones opinion is the most important.....no wonder nothing is ever agreed on.
  • steve1980
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    pitkin2020 wrote: »
    It is until you want to move to a new server lol. Had a right ball ache without success at the moment. https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/3790057

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  • pitkin2020
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    steve1980 wrote: »
    Send me a message on Facebook next time!

    Doh, i didn't think of that lol. Sorted it now but will remember next time. It was getting late last night and I shouldn't have just left it to this morning lol.
    Everyones opinion is the most important.....no wonder nothing is ever agreed on.
  • pitkin2020 wrote: »
    They are ok but like most software you are limited to what the designers of said software have given you.

    Things like opencart are opensource, they are basically enhanced by the users and the possibilities are pretty limitless, you aren't confined with the restrictions of the software.

    Actinic is £19+vat per month minimum. You could have something a lot better for a 1/4 of that price without the restrictions.

    Don't forget though that in that £19 comes support which you don't get with open source, don't get me wrong I love OS software and you could buy it in bundled with support but what happens when your lovely new shop done with zen or the like falls over and you don't know how to fix it?

    Managed solutions cost money for a reason you're offloading the problem to someone else to worry about. Now if you have the time and the expertise to run and maintain it (not that in general it's hard of course but...) then go for it, if you're worried about maintaining a given system, what to do if it falls over, hacking, etc etc then I would at least for the first time buy in services from someone be that Actinic, 1and1 etc
  • pitkin2020
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    Rich44 wrote: »
    Don't forget though that in that £19 comes support which you don't get with open source, don't get me wrong I love OS software and you could buy it in bundled with support but what happens when your lovely new shop done with zen or the like falls over and you don't know how to fix it?

    Managed solutions cost money for a reason you're offloading the problem to someone else to worry about. Now if you have the time and the expertise to run and maintain it (not that in general it's hard of course but...) then go for it, if you're worried about maintaining a given system, what to do if it falls over, hacking, etc etc then I would at least for the first time buy in services from someone be that Actinic, 1and1 etc

    Its certainly a point to consider but if you find the RIGHT os software you will find support is free and usually better than the paid support. Just look at the support I was given on a non related wordpress site for my wordpress issue. Opencart forum has also been a great tool for support with plenty of people also offering a paid service if you have issue, which unless you can visage having problems daily still works out cheaper than £20+ a month.

    Yes you don't have that instant phone call giving you access to the support, which will also cost you but you have a wider range of people in which to use for support and issues. Swings and roundabouts though TBH.

    It really depends what you want from the shop and how complex you intend to make it. OS will allow you to go as complex as you want, by either designing the code yourself or paying someone to design the code, not possible on licensed software due to the constrictions of the license.
    Everyones opinion is the most important.....no wonder nothing is ever agreed on.
  • sorry i got it wrong its create.net & its def still around has anyone used it please
  • pitkin2020 wrote: »
    They are ok but like most software you are limited to what the designers of said software have given you.

    Things like opencart are opensource, they are basically enhanced by the users and the possibilities are pretty limitless, you aren't confined with the restrictions of the software.

    Actinic is £19+vat per month minimum. You could have something a lot better for a 1/4 of that price without the restrictions.

    What do you mean by restrictions?
  • pitkin2020
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    sunny2 wrote: »
    sorry i got it wrong its create.net & its def still around has anyone used it please

    Why the need for a second thread, is it because you didn't like the responses here?? You got the same sort of response in your 2nd thread!
    Everyones opinion is the most important.....no wonder nothing is ever agreed on.
  • pitkin2020
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    ohblimey wrote: »
    What do you mean by restrictions?

    The way the software is designed can be restrictive, there may be elements you like from another piece of software but because of the license agreement you can't edit the core coding of the software. You can't remove features that are also built into the software. With opensource you can strip the whole thing back, remove what you don't want add what you want, recode what ever you want. You can bring in features you want (if you can code them) etc.

    Certain software will restrict what payment methods you can use, because they don't support it where as with open source if someone wants it they will design the code and usually receive it for free or a small fee. You buy the things you want.

    The software companies have no interest in allowing you to edit the core system because they wouldn't be able to charge you for the next update!!

    Like I said before it really depends what you are aiming to do but its best to think further down the line than just what you are doing today. Open source has come a long way and can be set up just as quickly as an out of the box solution.
    Everyones opinion is the most important.....no wonder nothing is ever agreed on.
  • ohblimey
    ohblimey Posts: 71 Forumite
    edited 13 February 2012 at 6:21PM
    Hello pitkin2020

    I think it may have been me upset OP...oops, I thought people would be glad to glean extra bits of info on a topic they clearly want to learn more about

    However now OP has another thread I'll hijak this one

    I had a quick look at opencart today and I see how it could work very well and achieve a good site for little outlay. We have an actinic catalog site, it's been brilliant for us, although a steep learning curve when we set it up five years ago, and a few hundred pounds upfront cost, but no monthly fee. We did alter some script and changed just about everything, mainly because we wanted a very simple no fuss site. I did use the actinic community forum loads of times at first but haven't needed it for a couple of years now. However we now want to build three or four basic websites in addition to our main site, just to give some of our own brands more presence when people search. I will check out opencart more thoroughly

    Basically thanks for the nudge in the right direction
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