Seller wants cash on delivery for large item purchased on eBay...

armadillo1899

techspec wrote: »

Perhaps you should have been a bit more apprehensive BEFORE you wasted the sellers time by bidding.

What can go wrong with a bicycle that cannot be seen on purchase? Sounds like your the one wanting to keep their options open - maybe a claim for item not as described when you get a flat tyre?

Either pay up or put up and cancel - then move on

I love how some people 'grow some' from behind the comfort of their computer screen! I'm not out to scam anyone, quite the contary, I don't want to get burnt myself. I'm on here to ask some advice and not be accused of unfair practices.

As an update the seller has agreed to accept PayPal as payment and I feel much happier with my purchase. Thanks once again

Invalidation

theonlywayisup wrote: »

A seller must offer Paypal (with the exception of a couple of categories, such as cars).

You will have NO comeback with COD. Pay by paypal and act ignorant.

Yes they must 'Offer' Paypal but that doesnt mean they have to accept it.
I dont and I simply state that on all my collection sales.
Cash on Collection. No Money, No Collection

Simples.

Invalidation

soolin wrote: »

We are all aware of the PayPal on collection scam and it is well covered on the various sticky threads.

However, a seller cannot refuse PayPal and OP is perfectly entitled to pay by PayPal if they wish and we must be careful to ensure that buyers are aware of their rights.

If OP pays by PayPal and seller refunds it (as he may well do) then buyer is perfectly entitled to walk away from the transaction and leave seller with the fees to pay. sellers need to be aware of the PayPal on collection scam, but also need to be mindful that they risk losing their fees if they refuse to accept it.

Many of us do take PayPal if a buyer exercises their right to use it, but I for one factor it into my sales strategy nd if it is out of my comfort zone I would sell the item elsewhere.

Whats the 'scam then? I only sell large items as cash on Collection and state it quite clearly on all my ads. I also like to buy things as Cash on collection, so I can take a good look at the item and ensure it is as described in the ad.

And 'Sales Strategy' ? Oh Perleeeeeeeez, factor THAT !

bris

soolin wrote: »

only We should not be arrogant enough to assume that everyone is in a position to pay cash- just because a seller hopes to avoid ebay rules by 'insisting' on it.

I fully understand what you are saying Soolin, but the main point is, if they can't pay cash, then why even bother looking at an item with a huge "cash on collection only" don't use paypal, written clearly in the description.
It may be the rules but the seller takes the chance that buyers will not be that stupid, clearly some are.

soolin

bris wrote: »

I fully understand what you are saying Soolin, but the main point is, if they can't pay cash, then why even bother looking at an item with a huge "cash on collection only" don't use paypal, written clearly in the description.
It may be the rules but the seller takes the chance that buyers will not be that stupid, clearly some are.

Or maybe look at it a different way- maybe it is seller who is being stupid by thinking they can change the ebay rules?

soolin

Invalidation wrote: »

Whats the 'scam then? I only sell large items as cash on Collection and state it quite clearly on all my ads. I also like to buy things as Cash on collection, so I can take a good look at the item and ensure it is as described in the ad.

And 'Sales Strategy' ? Oh Perleeeeeeeez, factor THAT !

Not sure I follow some of your post- but if you want details of the paypal on collection scam then it is covered in the postage sticky thread.

Invalidation wrote: »

Yes they must 'Offer' Paypal but that doesnt mean they have to accept it.
I dont and I simply state that on all my collection sales.
Cash on Collection. No Money, No Collection

Simples.

Read the thread, you appear to be missing some points.

No one can force you to take paypal unless the legal people on the other thread can argue that buyer could then sue you for loss of bargain if you refuse- which I think is unlikely.

However, you must be prepared for the fact that some buyers prefer to use it and your terms and conditions cannot over ride what ebay say. So buyer pays you by paypal, you exercise your right to refund it and refuse to sell. You then have all your FVFs and listing fees to pay and possibly a neg.

Hence my comment that you appear to have misunderstood entirely about setting comfort levels. I understand that I cannot insist on cash, so if that is going to be a real problem for me I sell my item elsewhere.

QuackQuackOops

armadillo1899 wrote: »

I love how some people 'grow some' from behind the comfort of their computer screen! I'm not out to scam anyone, quite the contary, I don't want to get burnt myself. I'm on here to ask some advice and not be accused of unfair practices.

As an update the seller has agreed to accept PayPal as payment and I feel much happier with my purchase. Thanks once again

Yes, Im sure you do. But the seller will be worried to death for 45 days now.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with you inspecting the bike when you pick it up and then pay cash for it.

Even Ebay themselves have aknowledged that Paypal is not an ideal payment method for collection items.

I would be very wary of a buyer insisting on paying by Paypal for a collection only item of a certain value or higher. There is absolutely no reason to insist on it.

enya_ntfc

Don't see the issue? Inspect the bike, go out for a ride on it etc, if happy pay cash. Problem solved.

Just becasue some one sells a lot of one thing doesn't mean they are stealing it either - I sell a lot of s&g stuff and I don't get accused of nicking it...

pinkshoes

Given the amount of stolen bikes in many areas (Oxford is horrendous!), then you are right to be suspicious about ANY bike you purchase.

But given they've sold so many, I'm sure the police would have been on to them by now if it was dodgy.

I'd take the risk, but I'd want to collect the bike from their address, so that if there IS an issue, you can point the police in the right direction.