Park car in drive with no insurance?

Road_Hog

atrixblue.-MFR-. wrote: »

as for dvla not taking anyone to court Bolockz they have taken plenty, may have lost some and won some but all the same, utter tosh on your part for thinking their unenforcable fines, fine backed by government or introduced by government are always upheld and court action proceeded against the offender.

Really? And your knowledge and experience of taking on the DVLA is what, zilch?

I'm talking from experience, I've actually dealt with them, have you dealt with them on criminal proceedings? No, I thought not. Do you have a friend that has also been through the same process? No, I thought not.

When you actually understand the law and have dealt with these authorities then come back and give your opinion, but until then, until you have been in the position of dealing with these people, understanding the law and knowing that they don't have a leg to stand on, which is why they use a third party limited company (why don't the DVLA issue a court summons through the usual channels),

then stop giving your opinion on which you know nothing about and have no experience.

Once again, just to be clear, I have experience, I've been through the system, you haven't.

Rover_Driver

Road_Hog wrote: »

When you actually understand the law and have dealt with these authorities then come back and give your opinion, but until then, until you have been in the position of dealing with these people, understanding the law and knowing that they don't have a leg to stand on, which is why they use a third party limited company (why don't the DVLA issue a court summons through the usual channels),

I gave two instances in post 20 where DVLA have issued summonses, one for a civil claim and one for a criminal claim.

Do you want more?

I suggest you read sections 7A, 29 and 31A, Vehicle Excise and Registration Act 1994, and section 144A, Road Traffic Act 1988 - they give DVLA all the 'legs' it needs.

atrixblue.-MFR-.

Road_Hog wrote: »

Really? And your knowledge and experience of taking on the DVLA is what, zilch?

I'm talking from experience, I've actually dealt with them, have you dealt with them on criminal proceedings? No, I thought not. Do you have a friend that has also been through the same process? No, I thought not.

When you actually understand the law and have dealt with these authorities then come back and give your opinion, but until then, until you have been in the position of dealing with these people, understanding the law and knowing that they don't have a leg to stand on, which is why they use a third party limited company (why don't the DVLA issue a court summons through the usual channels),

then stop giving your opinion on which you know nothing about and have no experience.

Once again, just to be clear, I have experience, I've been through the system, you haven't.

stop talking out your behind.

dont assume what i have havent and could be going through or assume i know no-one going through a dvla battle your wrong.

dvla removed to vehicles for a friend that were declaired sorn, but in a public space outside their house where there is allocated parking bays but as its not locked off hence the dvla had a right to take them, they failed to comply with not paying the fines and were taken to court and lost against the dvla.

you have been disproved a few times with regards to this is suggest you drop it your giving miss information to those who scan these forums looking of info on the subject.

SailorSam

w211 wrote: »

though probably unlikely, what if it gets stolen?

I bought a new car (second hand), late on a Sunday and wasn't able to insure it until the next day, even though it was unlikely to be stolen, i took the battery off overnight.
I never realised though the radio wouldn't work the next morning.

Road_Hog

Rover_Driver wrote: »

https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/3678913

County Court summons issued for the Late Licensing Penalty.


https://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/discussion/3526793

Magistrates Court summons for no licence.



I can find more on other forums if you want..............

A couple of threads by a couple of newbies that didn't make it to double figure posts. I think I'll pass on that.

You may have noticed that I've been around a little longer than they have. So, I'll stand by my experience if you don't mind.

Talking of experience, I've dealt with and challenged the DVLA and their third party legal arm. Have you? No, I thought not, so stop telling me what happens when you have no experience of it.

Road_Hog

atrixblue.-MFR-. wrote: »

stop talking out your behind.

dont assume what i have havent and could be going through or assume i know no-one going through a dvla battle your wrong.

Just remind me what your personal experience is? Oh yes, zilch, nada, nothing. And your legal qualifications are? Oh yes, zilch, nada, nothing.

So, you have no personal experience and no legal qualifications, so your authority to give your opinion on this matter is? Nothing. When you've personally been involved (not some mate down the pub) in this situation, then please come back to give me advice. My credentials are empirical evidence, not just with the DVLA, but other government departments.

Rover_Driver

Road_Hog wrote: »

A couple of threads by a couple of newbies that didn't make it to double figure posts. I think I'll pass on that.

You may have noticed that I've been around a little longer than they have. So, I'll stand by my experience if you don't mind.

You can stand by your experience if you want, but it is wrong to advise the OP to do likewise as it may not be the same experience for them.

As I have pointed out, DVLA can and do take people to court, and I have given you the legislation that gives them the power to do so.

pitkin2020

Road_Hog wrote: »

Just remind me what your personal experience is? Oh yes, zilch, nada, nothing. And your legal qualifications are? Oh yes, zilch, nada, nothing.

So, you have no personal experience and no legal qualifications, so your authority to give your opinion on this matter is? Nothing. When you've personally been involved (not some mate down the pub) in this situation, then please come back to give me advice. My credentials are empirical evidence, not just with the DVLA, but other government departments.

You don't have personal experience in this issue though. This is about the continuous insurance enforcement not about renewing your SORN annually. SO your opinion is even less valid because your argument is irrelevant to the original question.

Paradigm

Road_Hog wrote: »

I have a car that I SORNed three years ago, but only did it the first year (it remains off road but I don't fill in new paperwork each year).

For that, they have tried to 'fine' me. The DVLA don't do it, they hand it out to a private company, to which I say to them, "I have no contract with you, p1ss off, you are a private limited company and I have signed no contract with you". Then they go away and stop bothering you.

To be fair though, the "fine" for not declaring SORN is alongside Failing to declare change of keeper & Failing to notify scrapping a car.... it's a pretty easy defence!

masterlumps

i dont really understand tbh

why does your dad not just change the date of commencement?

so much easier that what ifs and removing the battery? seriously just get him to phone and change the date