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  • ccluedo
    ccluedo Posts: 528 Forumite
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    Proper cat5e cable is:
    Twisted pair - ie each of the pairs in the cable is twisted round each other to minimise radio type interference.
    Solid core conductor - no telephone voice or data rated conductor anywhere of any type is ever multi strand - that not to say is might work.
    Short length (1 meter or so) patch cords of cat5e etc are allowed to be multistrand to make it each to bend them to facilitate easy connections

    Cat 5e 'FTP' is additionally shielded with a metal foil round the lot before the PVC sheath is added....though to be fully effective the foil needs ONE dedicated earth. no, not the house wiring earth and multiple earths at each end of the cable(s) are worse than no earth.

    Cat6 I'm not so familiar with - I think each pair is individually foil sheilded. I know its a much thicker cable than cat5e and more difficult to handle for this reason - and I think the wire size might be bigger.

    I have lots of cat5e cable running round the house under floorboards etc, with RJ45 data outlet points in various rooms, all done in stages when each room is re-decorated.

    Thank u so much for the mention of underfloor which set me thinking.

    We have good access to our sub floor in that room and it's an absolutely straight run along the same side of the sub wall to a coat cupboard right next to the router, (indeed where the BT Master Socket is.) :D

    I wasn't keen on the up thru the walls and across the loft option becoz of disturbing the decor...but underfloor seems ideal in my case.
    Also, those who pointed out the dangers of tripping are quite correct. I should say my relative is not too elderly, but has suffered a couple of strokes and is not always great on his feet...so an above floor trailing cable was never gonna be an option.

    Think I'm sorted now, just need to decide on the best cable to buy!

    Thanks for everyone's input, much appreciated. :beer:
  • Dave_C_2
    Dave_C_2 Posts: 1,827 Forumite
    smos585 wrote: »
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    Dear Dave (is it Cameron?)
    No, it isn't [expletive deleted] Cameron :).
    You maybe very handy and can get a wire from one side of the house to the other, pull up floor boards, etc, all the things that may be necessary if one doesn't want a a fairly chunky cable pinned to the skirting board/door architraves etc.
    Thanks. All safely hidden under carpets. Quite easily done from back of house downstairs to diagonally opposite room upstairs. A really simple DIY job. You just have to make sure that the cable is protected under doorways or where it may be trodden on. I tuck it under the carpet edging strip.
    You may not have seen all the laptops with broken power jacks/screens because someone has tripped over the cable.
    These are the same cables to trip over with or without homeplugs :)
    And in this case an elderly person and loose wires around the place maybe an accident waiting to happen.
    You mean like the loose Ethernet cable from the homeplug to the PC? Or the loose Ethernet cable from the Router to the homeplug?

    So saying, if your DIY skills are not up to the job then homeplugs do provide a neat but more expensive solution.

    Dave
  • fiddiwebb
    fiddiwebb Posts: 1,806 Forumite
    ccluedo wrote: »
    Thank u so much for the mention of underfloor which set me thinking.

    We have good access to our sub floor in that room and it's an absolutely straight run along the same side of the sub wall to a coat cupboard right next to the router, (indeed where the BT Master Socket is.) :D

    I wasn't keen on the up thru the walls and across the loft option becoz of disturbing the decor...but underfloor seems ideal in my case.
    Also, those who pointed out the dangers of tripping are quite correct. I should say my relative is not too elderly, but has suffered a couple of strokes and is not always great on his feet...so an above floor trailing cable was never gonna be an option.

    Think I'm sorted now, just need to decide on the best cable to buy!

    Thanks for everyone's input, much appreciated. :beer:
    Brilliant if you can do it underfloor then.

    I couldn't because I have a concrete floor inbetween my router/modem bt socket and smart tv, considered routeing inside walls and attic but a lot of faffing around so just went for the homeplugs.
  • ccluedo
    ccluedo Posts: 528 Forumite
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  • smos585
    smos585 Posts: 158 Forumite
    Dave_C wrote: »
    No, it isn't [expletive deleted] Cameron :).
    Thanks. All safely hidden under carpets. Quite easily done from back of house downstairs to diagonally opposite room upstairs. A really simple DIY job. You just have to make sure that the cable is protected under doorways or where it may be trodden on. I tuck it under the carpet edging strip.
    These are the same cables to trip over with or without homeplugs :)
    You mean like the loose Ethernet cable from the homeplug to the PC? Or the loose Ethernet cable from the Router to the homeplug?

    So saying, if your DIY skills are not up to the job then homeplugs do provide a neat but more expensive solution.

    Dave

    Continuing in the political theme.........

    You just don't get it?

    1. So everyone has to buy carpets/rugs now to solve this problem no bare floorboards please?
    2. The reference to Laptops was just by way of an example to show you how easy it is to trip over trailing wires - got it?
    3. Cables to/from homeplugs are short usually from floor to desk/table, maybe 1-2mtres hardly the 40ft as the Op was suggesting, can you understand the relative difference in risk here?

    Perhaps you might now understand why for some folks homeplugs may be a simpler and less risky way to deal with a problem - its not for everyone, but to make the statement you made originally, was perhaps a tad intolerant.

    have a good day.
  • JasX
    JasX Posts: 3,996 Forumite
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    Did the issue of the legality of homeplugs and the spectrum interference issue ever get properly cleared up?
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