More drivers getting convicted from helmet camera evidence

Lum

I think part of the problem is with having a straight-on cycle lane to the left of a car-lane* marked as straight on and left.

Taking cycles out of the equation if you did this with two car lanes, and the right lane marked for turning left and the left lane marked for straight on, whoever designed that junction would be losing their job.

Cycle lanes are a "relatively" new invention and many drivers are used to the idea that if they are in a lane marked for turning left, that there wont be a road layout that encourages road users to their left to carry straight on!

No this doesn't excuse not checking your mirror before turning, but I can understand why collisions of this sort happen. From a safety perspective, where the job of the traffic engineer is to consider crap driving/riding and come up with the best design to reduce accidents, maybe this isn't the most optimal layout?

An interesting one to debate is, if the cyclist is undertaking in the cycle lane on approach to the lights, then the lights change to green, does the clause Strider highlighted still apply, or is the traffic no-longer considered to be moving slowly in queues? Afterall, that clause was written with motorway traffic jams in mind long before anyone had invented the cycle lane.

*Yes I know these lanes are valid for all vehicles, including cars, HGVs, steamrollers, tanks and cyclists. Just trying to keep things concise here.

custardy

Lum wrote: »

I think part of the problem is with having a straight-on cycle lane to the left of a car-lane* marked as straight on and left.

Taking cycles out of the equation if you did this with two car lanes, and the right lane marked for turning left and the left lane marked for straight on, whoever designed that junction would be losing their job.

Cycle lanes are a "relatively" new invention and many drivers are used to the idea that if they are in a lane marked for turning left, that there wont be a road layout that encourages vehicles to their left to carry straight on!

No this doesn't excuse not checking your mirror before turning, but I can understand why collisions of this sort happen. From a safety perspective, where the job of the traffic engineer is to consider crap driving/riding and come up with the best design to reduce accidents, maybe this isn't the most optimal layout?

An interesting one to debate is, if the cyclist is undertaking in the cycle lane on approach to the lights, then the lights change to green, does the clause Strider highlighted still apply, or is the traffic no-longer considered to be moving slowly in queues? Afterall, that clause was written with motorway traffic jams in mind long before anyone had invented the cycle lane.

*Yes I know these lanes are valid for all vehicles, including cars, HGVs, steamrollers, tanks and cyclists. Just trying to keep things concise here.

an experienced cyclist shouldnt really be filtering as the light goes to green IYKWIM
If Im approaching lights with a left turn or the like
I will stop at a gap in traffic to take off with the flow.
this is one of the problems with cycle lanes/accelerated bike zones at lights
many cyclists see that as a target,where its often safer to stop and go with the traffic

custardy

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-17066798

appropriate sentence?

ffacoffipawb

movilogo wrote: »

What happens if you are at fault and it is recorded in your camera? Are you legally bound to supply that information or you can simply suppress it?

In that eventuality, I would say "what camera?"

Strider590

custardy wrote: »

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-17066798

appropriate sentence?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWeHNjKTpog