what happens if we can't find the extra 8 hours??

BigAunty

Charityworker wrote: »

... I dont know how I would prove my hours if the wtc asked though.

That's what those who post about WTC compliance issues with the HMRC struggle with.

Take meticulous records of how you spend your time - diary all your trips, purchases, posting times, craft fare travel and attendance time.

The HMRC are asking recipients of WTC who are self employed who they are investigating to provide proof of time spent, not just basic financial records.

You need to be very business like as there seems to be quite a push now, unsurprising given the amount of times posters say to benefit claimants 'oh, just start up a bit of ebay trading, its easy and it'll catapult you into WTC' ..

nextyeartina

thanx for the replies. daft question but could i make the hours up with overtime? i used to do regular overtime on a sunday which pays time and a half. i don't know what the overtime situation is like at the moment though. i'm not work shy, just looking for a plan b.

t, x

karenx

So you would be able to work every sunday for 8 hours guaranteed?

McKneff

Charityworker wrote: »

I've been making up the 8 hours (I've already started) by going round charity shops in 4 different towns on my day off. Starting at about 9.30am and ending at around 3pm. Then coming home and scouring eBay for wholesale vintage/costume jewellery. Then booking a table at a craft fair or antique Market every Saturday to sell it. You can charge double what you paid for a piece of vintage jewellery at one of these events. I dont know how I would prove my hours if the wtc asked though.

If you are doing this though, buying to sell, they could be cross referencing you, re declaring your income for tax purposes.

Firefox1975

Can you not do voluntary work? and get the establishment to sign off on the hours provided?

BigAunty

Firefox1975 wrote: »

Can you not do voluntary work? and get the establishment to sign off on the hours provided?

Tax credits are for renumerative work.

nextyeartina

just a quick update, managed to get the 4 hours regular overtime back, starting beginning of march. keeping my fingers crossed for the other 4 hours. it's full until the end of feb & i'm off next week. i've explained the situation to my team leaders & as soon as the new o/t comes out, they'll put my name down. i feel a little better

t, x

rebeccalb

McKneff wrote: »

Could you get 8 hours at another job, couple of nights in a pub or hotel.

Yes because it is so easy to just find another job these days. :mad: Some people can be so ignorant at times

sarahg1969

rebeccalb wrote: »

Yes because it is so easy to just find another job these days. :mad: Some people can be so ignorant at times

It's not easy, so there's no point trying?

BigAunty

rebeccalb wrote: »

Yes because it is so easy to just find another job these days. :mad: Some people can be so ignorant at times

Definately very tricky to get work - hardest it's been for years and very difficult to juggle two part time jobs without conflicts.

However, I am optimistic that the majority of those receiving WTC as couples for 16 hours will increase their hours to 24, motivated by the potential loss of it, even if they have to be entreprenurial and set up a micro business via self employment, such as a cleaning round, dog walking, avon round and so on.

For example, my sisters company struggles to find staff to work overtime at peak periods or transfer from part time to full time employment if they receive tax credits (they won't work a minute over 16 hours) so I expect she'll welcome staff approaching her for extra hours for a change.