Prescription qiestion

VfM4meplse

QuackQuackOops wrote: »

Yes, the surgery will know if your prescription has been used or not.

If it's a paper prescription, the surgery will have no way of knowing unless a)they scrutinise their prescribing data and b)it is a rare drug that no-one else is on.

rotoguys wrote: »

Electronic prescribing is in operation in my pharmacy. They have a direct link to the GP's surgery.

But prescriptions aren't directed to a pharmacy unless the patient has given consent. Otherwise they sit in a central bank and the GP has no way of knowing.

OP, times are tough but do you seriously expect us to believe that you cannot afford £7.40 for something that could infinitely improve your quality of life? Look at your expenditure and ask yourself, could you really not trim your costs on non-essentials (that would include alcohol, tobacco and luxury foods) by £7.40 per month? I think foregoing meat for 1 day a week could get you there, easily.

Why don't you just be honest with your GP and admit that you can manage your condition w/o medication, but would like the option to access this if necessary? Prescriptions (bar those for controlled drugs) are valid for 6 months after issue.

rotoguys

seven-day-weekend wrote: »

Agree with Savvy Sue, it is an awful waste. MY m-i-l did this all the time, would go to the Dr complaining of this that and the other, get the medication, get home, say 'I'm not taking that!' and flush it all down the toilet. Then complain that her Dr was useless. She was not claiming any benefits for her health, so it was nothing to do with laying a paper trail, I don't know why she did it.

Don't collect them if you are not going to take them, although why you should feel you know better than your Doctor what medication you need, I really don't understand.

There we go, another case!

In my case, and in particular one of my conditions. I was prescribed the drugs by the hospital following an operation to not only save my life but also my right leg.
I was told I needed to take them for life, which was later confirmed by my GP. I never wanted to go into hospital, and I never wanted this further complication of an existing condition.

But it is my choice whether I take the drugs or not.

These two are Clopidogrel & Rosuvastatin. Both of which I hate the side effects that they give me.

I have never said I know better than the doctors - I know they are right, as the reasons why I have to take them have been explained to me.

They are just two of the very many that are prescribed each month. there are others that I also do not take, and some that I take as and when.

Savvy_Sue

rotoguys wrote: »

Why do it? For a start the GP and the Consultants say that I need them. In part some of them are for life saving reasons.
If I went back to the doctor and told him that I think I don't need the level of drugs and type of drugs, what do you imagine he would say? He certainly wouldn't agree with me.

So to avoid that confrontation I obtain the drugs but don't take them. According to his records and that of the local pharmacy, for all intents and purposes I am doing as I am told.

Over the years I've happily had several 'confrontations' with GPs, from my right to have home births, through my right not to take mind-altering drugs, to my right not to take drugs to control my BP.

My mother has declined Warfarin in similar 'confrontations', and the cardiac consultant she saw recently didn't bat an eyelid about this.

Given what QQO says here:

QuackQuackOops wrote: »

All you people who dont take the meds you are prescribed, do you realise that you could be risking your life?
Lets say you collapse while out, get sent to the hospital for treatment. You are unconscious. They look on your medical notes and see that you have xyz drugs and so decide not to give another drug because of side effects. It was a drug that may have helped you.
Even the opposite can be true. You can be given certain drugs because you have other drugs in your system (or so your notes say).

Dont think "it wont ever happen". It does. Its a dangerous game to play.

it's not a game I'd choose to play.

rotoguys wrote: »

As you yourself have found out, quite a lot of elderly people hoard drugs when in fact they should be taking them.

That is why I have to make sure that I re-order everything at the right time which indicates that according to the records will show that I am about to run out of them.

This practice happens in 1,000's of households that have elderly people living in them. When my grandfather died many many years ago, we too found all sorts of medicines and potions stuffed in the backs of cupboards. We all believed that he was taking them! At the time I thought it was crazy, but now I find that I am doing the same thing all these years later.

Just because this is going on in 1,000s of households, and has been for years, I don't understand why someone with your command of the English language and grasp of the basic economics of disability benefits (as demonstrated in numerous other threads) thinks it's OK to do this.

rotoguys wrote: »

1. Other than to tell the GP what I am doing, what else do you suggest I do? I have already covered the why's and whatfor's in a previous answer. I am fully aware of what I am doing thankyou - but the alternative is to have a blazing row with the GP who insists that I need these drugs for my health's sake. Of course I have questioned if I need take them - the answer was a clear YES I do!
The cost to the taxpayer is no different whether I take them or burn them. I presume you would suggest that I do not collect them from the pharmacy. Of course I could do that, but then how would I explain my actions to the GP when he found out? He could in all event - kick me off his list and that of the practice! Then where would I be. What I do is the simpler of the two possibilities - let him think I am taking them!

If you can't be honest with your GP, wouldn't it be better to change surgeries anyway?

rotoguys

Richie-from-the-Boro wrote: »

Its a given and public information that you have jack~booted your evangelical view of the moral misuse by posters in this group of disabled benefits awards. You have chosen to do this in any thread of your choosing, even totally unrelated threads, devaluing the threads by making them off topic and useless to the original poster.

You relentlessly do this to reinforce your own personal sanctimonious view that those in receipt of disability related benefits are overpaid whilst you yourself have both long arms deep in what you consider to be the 'disability trough'

That Roto is a very oily and slippery version of hypocritical.

wow!! where did that come from and what has it to do with the original question posed by the OP?

From start to finish it seems that you have a very low opinion of me - but seriously is this the place to voice it?
You are dangerously close to creating a 'slanging match' which is not what this site is about.

Yes I have a very strong opinion about those that fraudalently obtain welfare benefits, as do most of the UK citizens.
And yes I welcome the arrival of PIP, the tightening of ESA and the reviews that are ongoing into Pension Credit/Attendance Allowance and other well abused benefits.

Please keep your personal opinions of another poster off these threads - there are other places that you can voice them which are more fitting for your mentality.

Richie-from-the-Boro

rotoguys wrote: »

wow!! where did that come from and what has it to do with the original question posed by the OP?

From start to finish it seems that you have a very low opinion of me - but seriously is this the place to voice it?
You are dangerously close to creating a 'slanging match' which is not what this site is about.

Yes I have a very strong opinion about those that fraudalently obtain welfare benefits, as do most of the UK citizens.
And yes I welcome the arrival of PIP, the tightening of ESA and the reviews that are ongoing into Pension Credit/Attendance Allowance and other well abused benefits.

Please keep your personal opinions of another poster off these threads - there are other places that you can voice them which are more fitting for your mentality.

24 days and 229 posts, most of them in one way or another unhelpful. At an unscientific guess I'd say most of them fall into one of two groups (1) berating other posters for claiming too much disability based income and (2) taking a[STRIKE]ny[/STRIKE] thread off topic by introducing yet again your exaggerated holiness, your superior view of why the Government pay too much / and / or / the disabled claim too much.

I do wonder where [forum & nym]you [STRIKE]were booted from[/STRIKE] appeared from on the 4th January when you appeared here ?

Perhaps if you lose your sanctimony and resist the evangelical approach you have to telling everyone who doesn't want to hear your thoughts on why the disabled are paid to much and should hand it back you might become a useful contributor to the MSE / D&D Group.

rotoguys

Savvy_Sue wrote: »

Over the years I've happily had several 'confrontations' with GPs, from my right to have home births, through my right not to take mind-altering drugs, to my right not to take drugs to control my BP.

So have I. But when it starts to become a weekly battle, and I am not in a fit condition to continue with it, I give in and look to take the easy option.

My mother has declined Warfarin in similar 'confrontations', and the cardiac consultant she saw recently didn't bat an eyelid about this.

Been there as well. Got absolutely fed up with the constant toing and froing to the clinic to get my INR figure. So I packed it in. The GP found out via the hospital clinic, called me in and prescribed other drugs to compensate, two of which I also do not take - as per my earlier reply.

Given what QQO says here:
it's not a game I'd choose to play.

Everybody is entitled to do what ever they want with drugs.

Just because this is going on in 1,000s of households, and has been for years, I don't understand why someone with your command of the English language and grasp of the basic economics of disability benefits (as demonstrated in numerous other threads) thinks it's OK to do this.

My ability to write and understand the Benefit system has nothing to do with this topic. I am quite content on how I am living my life thankyou.

If you can't be honest with your GP, wouldn't it be better to change surgeries anyway?

The last thing I need is to try and find another GP practice. My life is OK at the moment. Changing GP's won't change anything. - I will be prescribed the same drugs albeit by a different doctor.
Me, I just like a bit of peace now, and do not wish to battle the health experts every week.

rotoguys

Richie-from-the-Boro wrote: »

24 days and 229 posts, most of them in one way or another unhelpful. At an unscientific guess I'd say most of them fall into one of two groups (1) berating other posters for claiming too much disability based income and (2) taking a[STRIKE]ny[/STRIKE] thread off topic by introducing yet again your exaggerated holiness, your superior view of why the Government pay too much / and / or / the disabled claim too much.

I do wonder where [forum & nym]you [STRIKE]were booted from[/STRIKE] appeared from on the 4th January when you appeared here ?

Perhaps if you lose your sanctimony and resist the evangelical approach you have to telling everyone who doesn't want to hear your thoughts on why the disabled are paid to much and should hand it back you might become a useful contributor to the MSE / D&D Group.

I've made clear my views already about your postings. Nothing has changed and I have more important things to do than enter into a dialogue with you!

seven-day-weekend

rotoguys wrote: »

Oooooo!!! Someone got out of the wrong side of bed this morning didn't they!



1. Other than to tell the GP what I am doing, what else do you suggest I do? I have already covered the why's and whatfor's in a previous answer. I am fully aware of what I am doing thankyou - but the alternative is to have a blazing row with the GP who insists that I need these drugs for my health's sake. Of course I have questioned if I need take them - the answer was a clear YES I do!
The cost to the taxpayer is no different whether I take them or burn them. I presume you would suggest that I do not collect them from the pharmacy. Of course I could do that, but then how would I explain my actions to the GP when he found out? He could in all event - kick me off his list and that of the practice! Then where would I be. What I do is the simpler of the two possibilities - let him think I am taking them!

2. You have no idea what my medical conditions are and I do not propose to detail them on this site. Suffice it to say that if you did know you would be sh****ng a brick trying to get your head round it all.

3. I have answered this in 1 above. The GP would not hear of reducing or stopping the level of drugs I am supposed to be taking.

Happy now you pompous twit!

Why do you think you know better than the GP?

VfM4meplse

It's the patient's absolute right to exert their choice and not take medication if they wish not to.

It is however a shocking abuse of a publicly funded service that patients knowingly order drugs that they have no intention of taking once dispensed. Don't patients have a responsibility to be honest, rather than knowingly waste money that could be spent on other areas of healthcare. The cost of 12 months of rosuvastin alone is between £234 - £386 pa, depending on the dose. rotoguys, would you be keen on wasting that amount of money if it was your own? Is that what the cost of "not upsetting your doctors" is worth to you? They're big boys, they can handle your bombshell. The cost given is just scratching on the surface, it's estimated that over 20% of the £13 billion pounds a year spent by the NHS on drugs is not taken as intended.

There's wastage everywhere in the health service. My point is, if you are aware of it how in all conscience can you not act with integrity? NOT ticking the boxes by the drugs you don't take requires less effort than ticking all of them, don't you think?

seven-day-weekend

I agree that people do not have to take any medication if they do not wish to, but I think it is terribly irresponsible and an abuse of the NHS to ask for medication they have no intention of taking.