suspended from work today

vax2002

To be honest, look for another Job ASAP, get on with living and move on.
If they question it once you have left, tell them you were only following orders and you will now supply details of every job where you were told to "just use old pipes" and the customers were billed for new to the principle contractor they were working for.
That should shut them up. VERY QUICKLY !

Acc72

double post .....

bigdek

vax2002 wrote: »

To be honest, look for another Job ASAP, get on with living and move on.
If they question it once you have left, tell them you were only following orders and you will now supply details of every job where you were told to "just use old pipes" and the customers were billed for new to the principle contractor they were working for.
That should shut them up. VERY QUICKLY !

too be honest we were looking to leave the company soon anway.

this was no secret .

we had a new start lined up but fell through last week .

have managed today get another start with another firm in a couple of weeks if we want it so may just tell them tomorow i quit.

its what they want im sure which !!!!es me off but i now hate the firm even more

sod them

thanks for the input people

bigdek

So have a new job starting in two weeks. Goin into work on monday to quit with immediate effect. I should be giving four weeks notice. Im sure they wont be fussed given the current situation. But if they get arsey what the worst they can do to me.

nuttyp

If you are suspended, are you on full pay??? if so dont say anything monday. Wait n then leave after the two weeks are up... play them at their own games.

pineapple

I don't understand this. Surely the actual materials used are put on a job sheet. But if it's not properly recorded and any surplus simply goes back in the van to be used on another job ad infinitum - surely that would result in some jobs not costing very much in materials. If the the customer/grants agency is however billed at the same price per job, that would be a nice little earner for the company itself.
See what I mean?
The surplus has to be going somewhere and that has to be either in the fitters pockets or it's company fraud - in that they are getting paid for materials not used.
That said I don't think this can be proved by the company unless they have been keepings obs over a period or unless they actually go back and spot check some of the jobs.
My head hurts...

Gloomy_Past_Bright_Future

Is this for work in council properties?

If so local government contracts are a godsend and I can guarantee the company won't want to lose them!

I would play hardball, as the managers are denying saying anything to you, I would state that if you do get dismissed, you will be making the local council aware of what has been done and give them addresses of where it occured and state it was on the managers instructions.

See if they want to lose their jobs too!

Unfortunately we are in a time where the employer knows they can treat people like this as jobs are so few and far between.

blossomhill_2

If this is contract work it all comes down to what is specified in the "Schedule of Works" - this will say whether all new piping is to be used or whether re-use is acceptable - check the schedule; even if it says "strip out existing and fit new" there may well be another paragraph that covers "green" principles and says that wherever possible, sound exisiting materials should be re-used

The manager's say so will be irrelevant

As far as theft and fraud go, materials may be missing but they will have to prove beyond doubt that you are repsonsible for that loss

KiKi

bigdek wrote: »

But if they get arsey what the worst they can do to me.

They can sue you for losses and costs incurred for the time you didn't work your notice.

KiKi

londonTiger

do you contract out to the council? that could explain a lot because its odd for me to think that theyd be laying ppl off at this time of the year for central heating repairs, only a council with poor management would do that.

i personally dont see a problem in reusing old pipework, but technically it is fraud if you;re charging them for brand new, also because the old pipe you take out of the property is really the property of the council so you shouldn't be reusing them.

Pretty careless of the management, they should have known that the council would ask for invoices for new parts, or depost of old parts, one or the other, no good if you can;t produce either.