Planning application - object on noise grounds?

Mrs_Arcanum

If you and others object on noise grounds, planning permission may still be granted but with restrictions as appropriate. Better to get more people to register an objection as this has to be commented on by the planning officers.

If no one objects they may get the full hours they want by default.

pimento

Mrs_Arcanum wrote: »

If you and others object on noise grounds, planning permission may still be granted but with restrictions as appropriate. Better to get more people to register an objection as this has to be commented on by the planning officers.

If no one objects they may get the full hours they want by default.

I have already planned to be out with my clipboard tomorrow evening. As the letters from planning were address to "The Owner/The Occupier" I can guarantee that some of them will not even have been opened.
There are plenty of houses that will be affected by the noise that won't even have received a letter although the Planning Officer I spoke to said they would be erecting signs notifying interested parties. Albeit A4 sized.

chris_m

Sugared-frog wrote: »

Today they started up a generator shortly after 7 am and yet work on the site isn't supposed to start till 8 am.

Started it shortly after 7am?
What bliss. Next-door to me was a petrol station which was then demolished and turned into a Tesco Express. They had a generator running all night, at just the right speed and distance to set up resonant humming in our flats.
When I went to see the foreman about it he was most apologetic but said he couldn't do anything immediately - the site had no mains electricity and he had to have overnight security onsite else the local scallies would have all their plant away in a matter of minutes. To compound the problem, being an ex-petrol station there were deep holes over much of the site where the tanks were being removed, H&S required that the place was illuminated so the guards didn't fall down the holes, hence the generator :-(
To be fair to the foreman, he did promise to relocate the generator further away as soon as he could -and he did, which at least stopped our flats resonating.

Mind you, that's proved nothing compared to the ignorant b's who pull up in the car park, stereos blaring and all windows wound down then sit there while one of the occupants goes in for some fags, beer or whatever :mad:

pimento

An update.

I called on a few of my neighbours at the weekend to see if I was a lone voice pi$$ing in the wind and they all are a bit put out about it. One chap has lived here for 47 years since well before the Fire Station was built and he says he remembers "all this being sorted out" back then. ie: restrictions on what they could and couldn't do on the site. It gave me the idea to see if they were restricted as to what they could and couldn't do.

I've done some investigations and the Fire Station was built between 1975 and 1978. I called the local Planning Department and they said that the plans were passed by the County Council. When I spoke to the County Council this morning, they confirmed that the land was transferred from them to the Fire & Rescue in 1998 and that all documents are now with them. A bit like putting the fox in charge of the hen house then...

Anyway, I called the Fire & Rescue and spoke to their Property Department who were very cagey when I said what I wanted (a copy of the original consent). "I don't think I can give you that if you're going to be objecting" said the man.

I told him that I could probably get a copy through the Freedom of Information Act but that it would take me longer than the 10 days I now have left to submit my letter of objection to the Planning Department, so it would be really helpful if he could let me have it without recourse to The Act. I told him that if I couldn't be provided with a copy, I would have to include that information in my letter of objection and let the Planners decide what they make of the omission.

He's going to get back to me.

Fuzzyness

you should be able to get a copy of the original permission from the council. they are obliged to give it to you if you ask whereas the firebridge people arent. due to its age you'll need to track down the original application number and then arrange to view the paper file or microfiche that the council will hold.

whilst councils would like you to respond by the date they state in their letter, you can submit comments right up to the day that the application is determined so dont feel like you've lost your chance.

pimento

I have spoken to our local council and they say they never granted the permission, it was done by the County Council, so they have no records. The County Council passed the ownership of the land to the Fire & rescue in 1998, along with all the records, so they have no records either. The only ones with a copy are the Fire & Rescue.

Crazy, if you ask me. I mean, the consent might not have any restrictions, but it might and there's no way to know until I get sight of it.

The Fire & Rescue Access to Information requests take 20 working days, but if they don't let me have it, I will add that fact into my objection.

Very frustrating.

pimento

An update;

The decision went to the Development Committee and was approved subject to them not being able to use the cutting equipment except for between Monday-Friday 9am-6pm and for no more than one three hour window, no more then three times a week.

I'm happy with that as it's actually less than they're doing at the moment.

Thank you everyone for your help.

andy.m_2

I think this is disgraceful, I'm prefectly happy to let the fire brigade cut the cars up, next to your place

pimento

andy.m wrote: »

I think this is disgraceful, I'm prefectly happy to let the fire brigade cut the cars up, next to your place

.. and they can. Just not in the evening or weekends.

poppysarah

Could you request they put your triple glazing in and other sound defence measures?