Flashing at speed camera vans today

TrickyWicky

Happychappy wrote: »

That's one of the problems living a life of crime ? oh no don't tell us, you and they were all in the same lodge ; ) or maybe just a wannabee?:(

What? - life of crime?

I've known many cops and ex cops over the years. Neighbours, colleagues etc. Whatever you're trying to suggest in your backwards way of coming forward it certainly isn't what you thought.

sarahg1969 wrote: »

I guess your answer is "don't speed"? You think that that's a sure way of avoiding prosecution?

Yes if you want to avoid being prosecuted for speeding. From the tone of your reply you seem to think you can justify speeding by suggesting that they'll simply prosecute you for something else instead.

sarahg1969

TrickyWicky wrote: »

Yes if you want to avoid being prosecuted for speeding. From the tone of your reply you seem to think you can justify speeding by suggesting that they'll simply prosecute you for something else instead.

No, I'm saying that people who were not speeding are prosecuted for speeding.

I have been. And my father has been, too.

I was prosecuted for doing 39mph right outside a school at 8.35 one morning. I was not speeding. In fact, I was barely moving.I advised the police of this, but proceedings were issued. After I had entered a plea of not guilty, only at that time was I entitled to see the evidence. Which was that it was a telegraph pole, and not my car, that was travelling at 39mph.

My father was accused of driving at 48mph past a Gatso. The photographs clearly showed that he was travelling at 24-26mph. Again, it was not until he entered a not guilty plea that the case was dropped, when he reiterated the evidence in the photos.

We could, of course, have assumed that the camera never lies, and just handed over a quarter of our licences without question.

I'm fairly sure we can't be the only people who have ever been wrongly prosecuted. If it were a case of just explaining, and then the case being dropped, it wouldn't be so bad. But you have to have the nerve to await the issue of a summons and then plead not guilty before you are even entitled to see the evidence.

rev_henry

dacouch wrote: »

I love this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHOazGC7alk&feature=related

If you put 'ntbpt' into youtube you'll see much more where that came from. They're protesting against Westminster City Council deciding to levy a parking 'tax' on motorcycles.

[Deleted User]

Scamera vans round my area all sit where the road turns into NSL or vice versa. Never in built up residential areas.

Easy pickings.

Flyboy152

Deleted_User wrote: »

Scamera vans round my area all sit where the road turns into NSL or vice versa. Never in built up residential areas.

Easy pickings.

Why is it "easy pickings?"

TrickyWicky

sarahg1969 wrote: »

No, I'm saying that people who were not speeding are prosecuted for speeding.

I have been. And my father has been, too.

I was prosecuted for doing 39mph right outside a school at 8.35 one morning. I was not speeding. In fact, I was barely moving.I advised the police of this, but proceedings were issued. After I had entered a plea of not guilty, only at that time was I entitled to see the evidence. Which was that it was a telegraph pole, and not my car, that was travelling at 39mph.

My father was accused of driving at 48mph past a Gatso. The photographs clearly showed that he was travelling at 24-26mph. Again, it was not until he entered a not guilty plea that the case was dropped, when he reiterated the evidence in the photos.

We could, of course, have assumed that the camera never lies, and just handed over a quarter of our licences without question.

I'm fairly sure we can't be the only people who have ever been wrongly prosecuted. If it were a case of just explaining, and then the case being dropped, it wouldn't be so bad. But you have to have the nerve to await the issue of a summons and then plead not guilty before you are even entitled to see the evidence.

You're not in Wales by any chance are you? - I've heard they're mega strict over there.

I had a scare years ago, Gatso + New driver + 28mph = two bright flashes and one very paranoid me for about a month!

pendulum

Flyboy152 wrote: »

There really is only one sure way to avoid being prosecuted for speeding; I wonder if anyone can guess what it is.............

Strangle you for repeating that damn point yet again, and spend the rest of my life in prison?

pendulum

Sooki wrote: »

I doubt very much if anything will happen, I see police officers walking and driving past people breaking the law all the time and have yet to see them take any action.

Yes, but the OP was in a motor vehicle. They always have time to fine motorists.

Flyboy152

pendulum wrote: »

Strangle you for repeating that damn point yet again, and spend the rest of my life in prison?

Does that mean you can't really guess?

atrixblue.-MFR-.

funnily enough i dont see the scamera vans in 20-30 zones no more, i see more bike cops set speed traps than the big scam vans and thats a rarity, and even then i think they shouldnt carry the hand helds due to vibration through the bike affecting callibration of the gun, a good example is when i was flagged down by a bike cop, i was heading heading into Nelson from gelligaer just past llanciachfawr it reduces from 40-30 i came round the courner at a steady 28-30mph knowing he sits there most saturday mornings, he flagged me in, went through his spiel, then pointed out i was doing 36MPH, i desputed it telling him i know what speed i was doing and it wasnt that fast, and asked to see verifacation of callibration, it was well within the 12months, he was ademant i was speeding due to the gun being calibrated, i asked him to point it at a stationary object roughly the same distance he had taken his reading of me, that reading of a big white van parked up the road came back at 7MPH, rather red faced told me to be on my way.

again A470 southbound from abercynon the van sits on the overpass, NSL.

A470 northbound usually park in the emergency only layby.

llanbradach bypass southbound to caerphilly. illegally parks in a police patrol area only bay next to the layby.

aberbargoed to tredegar 50mph old road, usually parked midway near the turn off to the industrial estate.

40 mph road rhondda heratige park has a truvello upgrade near hopkinstown,van usually parked on grass verge 300 yards up from train station past trehafod turnoff just after bridge also a ANPR TRAP at the end of every other month as well as dvla tax cam car that sits in residential only parking bay opposit the chinese.

notice all the above none are in a 30 zone. i'm out most days never see one in these residential limit zones.

A470 northbound to merthyr tydfill 50mph zone in layby, or southbound from merthyr to abercynon NSL in layby 1 mile from 50zone.

nantgarw-taffswell GEAS road with fixed camera traffic cop sets up a tripod mounted cam just after petrol station, or down near taff well roundabout that joins A470 40MPH limit.