Advice please bad situation.

elvis86

piglet25 wrote: »

Elvis86 - if you ever land on your butt be sure to come back here and tell me so I can talk to you in a condescending manner. Why bother posting?

I don't object to the OP receiving assistance whilst he is out of work. I object to him seemingly deciding that despite being "homeless", renting a room in a house (that the state will generously pay for) is somehow beneath him. I object to him deciding that instead he will rent a house, and then immediately complain that he can't afford to pay the bills or to furnish it, and expect to receive even more benefits to cover the shortfall.

I've friends who work full time and would love their own houses, but economics mean that they're stuck sharing. I fail to see why someone on JSA should feel that he has the priviledge to go rent a house when they don't?

lynzpower

elvis86 wrote: »

I don't object to the OP receiving assistance whilst he is out of work. I object to him seemingly deciding that despite being "homeless", renting a room in a house (that the state will generously pay for) is somehow beneath him. I object to him deciding that instead he will rent a house, and then immediately complain that he can't afford to pay the bills or to furnish it, and expect to receive even more benefits to cover the shortfall.

I've friends who work full time and would love their own houses, but economics mean that they're stuck sharing. I fail to see why someone on JSA should feel that he has the priviledge to go rent a house when they don't?

OK you have made your point.

Can you give it a rest now, your vitriol is doing no one any favours, least of all you.

elvis86

cattie wrote: »

No doubt when you are homeless & a property becomes available to you, you consider if you can afford the rent ( and to me £80 per week for a house sounds incredibly cheap as it wouldn't even get you a room in my area) but even if you do stop to think about utilities etc, you wouldn't have any real conception of the costs until you'd moved in.

I'm sorry, but how do you think everyone else in the world gets on?!
By your logic, we'd all buy 3 litre 4x4s because we can afford the repayments and then complain when we drive them off the forecourt because we can't afford to tax/insure and run them. Anticipating the cost of things is part of life. Or at least, it should be.

cattie wrote: »

I expect the OP had assumed the whole rent would be covered by HB & his overwhelming concern was to get a roof over his head. He was no doubt overjoyed to find a house, where his child could come & stay.

Yeah, I bet he was. Overjoyed to find a house that he assumed the state would pay for. But why should they? He's a single man. He doesn't need a house.

Mrs_Arcanum

rentergirl wrote: »

Erm...no it doesn't include heating. BAD advice. I would agree with those who suggest Discretionary Housing Payment, but go the council and tell them this as soon as you can. You will probably have to move. I am so sorry, this policy is really unfair, and will affect so many parents like you. Where are those silly men who wear superhero costumes and dangle on bungee ropes? THEY should be angry about this.

Our tenants in shared properties DO get electricity & gas paid (70%) by HB. Fact.

piglet25

Have to comment that in this area HB does not pay any contribution towards heating and electricity. The only people who I have heard getting a contributiion, and aren't sure if its true even, is the immigrants who are awaiting their appeals - could it be that your tennants belong to this group? I know the HB forms take pains to ask if there are any shared bills included, and will deduct the value of them from any award.
And finally - Elvis86 - I think you are picturing a house with the same level of comforts as your own, the OP's 'house' doesn't even have a cooker, let alone any other luxury goods such as a fridge or washer, so it would really be more of a shell than a home. Maybe your friends on jobseekers would like to pool their resources with him to help each other out?

BitterAndTwisted

Has it actually occurred to any of you unkind snipers and carpers that the OP may have rented this property after the break-up but before he became jobless? He's given no indication that it was otherwise. Or that this property without the most basic of facilities was the only property which was available to him with whatever funds he may have had available? Which my have been zero for all we know.

I think the best place for benefit-bashers with appalling prejudices they like to flaunt is over on Gen Dis

carefullycautious

In fairness to the op he does have a daughter who is going to stay with him 3 days a week so why shouldnt he have a home

If this was a woman stating the same if would be a given that she should have it?

Men get the worst end of the stick when relationships break down.

And no Im not a man.

To the op, all the best to you.

piglet25

OP, please make sure that the HB officer knows if your daughter is staying over, because you will be entitled to a highter rate of rent due to her needing a bedroom too, and don't forget the free sites on facebook etc for home wares xx

mufi

You've already had some good (and some not so good...) advice on here, but may I suggest that you also ask the good people on this part of the forum: http://forums.moneysavingexpert.com/forumdisplay.php?f=76

Good luck.

ikati5

http://www.shelter.org.uk/ There will be a lot of people in the same situation give shelter a call for advice.

You and your daughter are as entitled to a home as anyone else!