Is this a scam or real job?

zagfles

Sounds like the "payment processor" scam. They transfer funds to your account (probably from phished accounts) and ask you to send it on to them, usually by Western Union etc.

Ignore the rubbish about them emptying your account, nobody can empty your account just by having your bank details. If they could cheques would never have existed. You give your full account details every time you write a cheque or use your debit card. They're probably after filling your account not emptying it!

polvean

Just had the email from these guys!! Been on several job sites too!! and now getting several of these emails!!

I don't want junk mail, i'd just like to have a job!!

markvorster

ray_of_sunshine wrote: »

I have put my CV on a few job sites and Wagner business has set me some forms and about this job they are offering, i will copy and print and can anyone give me some advice, as Too good to be true comes to mind.

Wagner Business Group
If you would like to know more about our company, please visit our site

http:// wagnerbusiness.com
Wagner Business Group office: 83 Dan Road, Canton, Massachusetts 02021. Company is registered in USA with company registration number 743712004.

Our company is specialized in miscellaneous financial services, like fund management, financial customer services, insurances and others; also the company has representative offices in such countries of the world as: : USA, France, Japan, Spain, Germany.


We are hiring people from UK willing to work in an international team of high-skilled professionals of economy and finance for all the positions listed below. Any special experience is not required because our training managers ready to prepare you and provide all the information.

Information about the Position

Gather all the information about the position that you can. All vacant position information can be found below. Read the Job Description and the Advertisement carefully to understand what the position is about.

All these positions are considered as a Full Time and Part Time job. You may choose your working hours for Part Time position in your area on the 1st interview with your local supervisor.

Job Positions Job Duties Working hours
Full Time Part Time
Finance Controller Duties and Responsibilities

Here are some of the general responsibilities and duties of an accounting clerk:
1. Maintains files, including filing of general ledger journal vouchers, accounts payable documentation, and other miscellaneous filings.
2. Types a variety of documents, reports, and records.
3. Prints daily accounts payable checks and inserts checks and invoices into envelopes for mailing.
4. Prepares requisitions for office, computer, and routine supply purchases.
5. Maintains regular contact with other departments to obtain and convey information and/or to correct transactions.
6. Attends and participates in meetings as required.
7. Ensures that work area is clean, secure, and well maintained.
8. Completes special projects and miscellaneous assignments as required.
9. Discuss report results with location management.
10. Post data to sales journal.
11. Handle customer and employee accounts receivable.
12. Assist with accounts payable, prepare checks.
13. Assist with payroll preparation.
14. Other duties as assigned. Monday to Friday
(09.00 – 18.00) 2-3 hours during the day
(3-6 days per week)


ORGANIZATION PROVIDES ON-THE-JOB TRAINING!

OUR BENEFITS
You are granted benefits package:
• 25 days’ holiday plus 8 public holidays
• pension and bonus schemes
• discounted train travel, holidays and flights
• season-ticket loan
• free long-term parking at BAA airports
• subsidised food and drink at airports
• discounted shopping at airport retailers
• an Employee Assistance Programme
• critical Illness cover
• access to expert advice on health and well-being











TRAINING COURSES

Before you start to work you should pass a free 10-days training course to practice with company’s software and several financial services to be prepared in future to perform your responsibilities for these positions. The company will provide Free On-line Education Training. The training course is distant except 2 personal meetings with company’s managers in your city on the 4th and last training days. The local supervisor will receive your first practical and test results before the first interview, because in some areas we recruit stuff on a competitive basis. Since main responsibilities include work with company’s soft by the end of the training you will be provided by all the necessary equipment (internet and telephone connection) and an access to company’s software.

- You don't need to attend seminars, lectures, etc and pay for the training courses.
- You don't need any special education.
- You don't really need to buy any special equipment, just use your computer and internet connection.
- You don’t have to travel far for practising, just use the closest locations for some practical lessons.

We are providing Electronic Commerce System Training for you absolutely FREE. There are no hidden costs. The course is 10 days and will be prescribed on the next day after you fill out your application form and/or send us an e-mail confirming when you will be ready to start.

The training period wage shall amount ₤30 for each training day (2 hours training day, ₤15.00 per hour), you will receive ₤300 for 10 training days. Every practical lesson will not take more than 2 hours, as for theoretical (test part) you will be provided 24 hours to fully examine the documents that will be sent to your e-mail address. The training days don’t have to be consecutive; you may have breaks in the schedule.

Your training wage will be deposited to an account at any bank of your choice.

Distant Training is a proven, flexible way for you to take training courses at a time and place that suits you. Our interactive distant training courses are detailed-guided courses that reinforce lessons with interactivity, assignments and self-test.

We know how we develop our employees and their skills will determine our future success. The practicing is very important part of each educational process, and we offer you the training process that will lead you to high-paid home job.
We continually encourage employees to enhance their skills and knowledge, and have created a learning organization focused on providing new opportunities for growth and professional development.

After you successfully finish the training courses, you become a company’s employee and will get a certified specialist. The 1st interview with local supervisor will be personally agreed with you to be held in the closest business area. You’ll be able to switch to office job without changing your responsibilities as soon as company opens an office in your city. For the present the offices in London, Liverpool, Manchester, Birmingham, Nottingham and Leicester are going to be opened.





SALARY

Should you accept this offer, your annual BASE will be:
- FULL TIME: 28300 (Bonus, Training).
- PART-TIME: 18700 (Bonus, Training).
Starting salary is £400 per week (full -time) and £340 per week (part - time), paid in biweekly installments by your choice of check or direct deposit (it will be agreed with you personally already on 1st interview).

Performance Bonuses: Up to three percent of your annual gross salary, paid quarterly by your choice of check or direct deposit.
You will be provided with all company benefits during the training period.





During the training period you will be paid daily.



In the future, after raising the level of skills, there is a possibility of having business trips to different countries (all the expenses, including abode, traveling expenses and travel allowance, are paid by the company).

NO MONEY NEEDED FOR JOB [TRAINING COURSES] OR ANYTHING.
THE COMPANY WILL PAY FOR IT ALL.


HOW TO APPLY


If you are interested in the position and ready to start working, please fill out the attached employment application and send it in reply to this e-mail address. You can fill it out on your PC or print it out and fill it by hand (in that case please write block letters; illegible applications may be excluded from consideration). You will be contacted by a company manager within 24 hours. You can start the training course within 1-4 business days after signing the application.

Is it a con or a real job?:A

YES its a scam.The request for the bank account details is a clue.
The fact that they emphasis the fact in their job requirements in order to recieve funds is the alarm bell.
The address on Google maps shows a company called New Gen .
The attempt is a joke.There are loads of them

dgsuk

Just received the emails from this group and the "job offer" documents. After searching the web to see if this is a legitimate company, I found this forum and this thread. I went back to the original email and noticed that the email was sent from yahoo.com. I have no idea if this is a scam or not, but a company that is offering such high wages for no experience should be able to afford its own domain and email accounts. They should not have to use yahoo.com. This really smells like an elaborate scam designed to clear out bank accounts of people who are just looking to get a job.

umit1978

Dear readers,i am from The Netherlands, i registered same as who starts this discussion in some job sites in the uk.

One and a half week ago i recieved email from Wagner business to apply for further details, i sended them one email back with some questions.

Normally someone need to read them, but they did not, behalf of answering my questions i recieved 1 application form and 2 information about the salary, exactly as what the starter from this discussion showed, this is really scam and why?here is my reason,

1: jobsite warn to provide bank account information.
2: at last they can answer desently the question what not happend.
3: they have as written several locations in the UK to established but still busy with settling in ther locations.
4: providing 300 pounds for 10 days training,so they invest in someone they do not know, but after the training you will meed face to face with the manager, in this crisis time i can not believe a company investing something without knowing in what.
5: No phone number, how it can be a proofed leading business for years if customers not can reach them by phone?

I really advice to someone to not try apply to them request, also not with the filisofic hope that there is a chance that this is real.

Do not fool your self to lissen others for trying to apply and see what happen.
Better to not earn money then losing it.

Best regards,
Umit

umit1978

zagfles wrote: »

Sounds like the "payment processor" scam. They transfer funds to your account (probably from phished accounts) and ask you to send it on to them, usually by Western Union etc.

Ignore the rubbish about them emptying your account, nobody can empty your account just by having your bank details. If they could cheques would never have existed. You give your full account details every time you write a cheque or use your debit card. They're probably after filling your account not emptying it!

Maybe you are 1 of them, why putting people in wrong path???
About Ignorring the Rubbish about emptying your account!!!!


There are several webpages (ebay Look a like) in The Netherlands where you can buy or advertise only by giving your full description with providing bank name, account number, full adres detail, when they take the money from your bank they will directly send the package, when the bank information is wrong or you not have money enough in your account, they will mail you a notification that they not could take the money and that the request will be deleted.

But when it did happen, you will noticed it maybe after a week, and th package whas maybe already recieved.

So people can use your bank account if they having full information!
Best regards,
Umit

linpet203

I have also received an e-mail from Wagner Business Group offering me details of a vacancy for a Financial Controller. I have got the additional information and application form and I thought it smelt wrong, particularly as they were asking for banbk details, etc.

Thank goodness I haven't sent them anything as I looked up this forum on the net first!

Thanks everyone who posted

By the way the e-mail I received came from someone called Maria K Foster, HR Manager

Evil_Olive

I haven't finished reading all the replies yet but, quite apart from requesting bank details, this is obviously a scam just from reading the first couple of paragraphs. The grammar and spelling is atrocious! Marginally better than the English in those "Please help me, I need a British bank account to deposit my 20 billion Nigerian Dollars (or whatever) into" emails but still atrocious!:rotfl:

planning303

any job advert / email that basically says:

Please take loads of money for little or not effort, with little or no skills and no real clue of what is involved with the pretend job = SCAM

flexrider

ray_of_sunshine wrote: »

I have put my CV on a few job sites and Wagner business has set me some forms and about this job they are offering, i will copy and print and can anyone give me some advice, as Too good to be true comes to mind.

Wagner Business Group
If you would like to know more about our company, please visit our site

http:// wagnerbusiness.com
Wagner Business Group office: 83 Dan Road, Canton, Massachusetts 02021. Company is registered in USA with company registration number 743712004.

Our company is specialized in miscellaneous financial services, like fund management, financial customer services, insurances and others; also the company has representative offices in such countries of the world as: : USA, France, Japan, Spain, Germany.


We are hiring people from UK willing to work in an international team of high-skilled professionals of economy and finance for all the positions listed below. Any special experience is not required because our training managers ready to prepare you and provide all the information.

Information about the Position

Gather all the information about the position that you can. All vacant position information can be found below. Read the Job Description and the Advertisement carefully to understand what the position is about.

All these positions are considered as a Full Time and Part Time job. You may choose your working hours for Part Time position in your area on the 1st interview with your local supervisor.

Job Positions Job Duties Working hours
Full Time Part Time
Finance Controller Duties and Responsibilities

Here are some of the general responsibilities and duties of an accounting clerk:
1. Maintains files, including filing of general ledger journal vouchers, accounts payable documentation, and other miscellaneous filings.
2. Types a variety of documents, reports, and records.
3. Prints daily accounts payable checks and inserts checks and invoices into envelopes for mailing.
4. Prepares requisitions for office, computer, and routine supply purchases.
5. Maintains regular contact with other departments to obtain and convey information and/or to correct transactions.
6. Attends and participates in meetings as required.
7. Ensures that work area is clean, secure, and well maintained.
8. Completes special projects and miscellaneous assignments as required.
9. Discuss report results with location management.
10. Post data to sales journal.
11. Handle customer and employee accounts receivable.
12. Assist with accounts payable, prepare checks.
13. Assist with payroll preparation.
14. Other duties as assigned. Monday to Friday
(09.00 – 18.00) 2-3 hours during the day
(3-6 days per week)


ORGANIZATION PROVIDES ON-THE-JOB TRAINING!

OUR BENEFITS
You are granted benefits package:
• 25 days’ holiday plus 8 public holidays
• pension and bonus schemes
• discounted train travel, holidays and flights
• season-ticket loan
• free long-term parking at BAA airports
• subsidised food and drink at airports
• discounted shopping at airport retailers
• an Employee Assistance Programme
• critical Illness cover
• access to expert advice on health and well-being











TRAINING COURSES

Before you start to work you should pass a free 10-days training course to practice with company’s software and several financial services to be prepared in future to perform your responsibilities for these positions. The company will provide Free On-line Education Training. The training course is distant except 2 personal meetings with company’s managers in your city on the 4th and last training days. The local supervisor will receive your first practical and test results before the first interview, because in some areas we recruit stuff on a competitive basis. Since main responsibilities include work with company’s soft by the end of the training you will be provided by all the necessary equipment (internet and telephone connection) and an access to company’s software.

- You don't need to attend seminars, lectures, etc and pay for the training courses.
- You don't need any special education.
- You don't really need to buy any special equipment, just use your computer and internet connection.
- You don’t have to travel far for practising, just use the closest locations for some practical lessons.

We are providing Electronic Commerce System Training for you absolutely FREE. There are no hidden costs. The course is 10 days and will be prescribed on the next day after you fill out your application form and/or send us an e-mail confirming when you will be ready to start.

The training period wage shall amount ₤30 for each training day (2 hours training day, ₤15.00 per hour), you will receive ₤300 for 10 training days. Every practical lesson will not take more than 2 hours, as for theoretical (test part) you will be provided 24 hours to fully examine the documents that will be sent to your e-mail address. The training days don’t have to be consecutive; you may have breaks in the schedule.

Your training wage will be deposited to an account at any bank of your choice.

Distant Training is a proven, flexible way for you to take training courses at a time and place that suits you. Our interactive distant training courses are detailed-guided courses that reinforce lessons with interactivity, assignments and self-test.

We know how we develop our employees and their skills will determine our future success. The practicing is very important part of each educational process, and we offer you the training process that will lead you to high-paid home job.
We continually encourage employees to enhance their skills and knowledge, and have created a learning organization focused on providing new opportunities for growth and professional development.

After you successfully finish the training courses, you become a company’s employee and will get a certified specialist. The 1st interview with local supervisor will be personally agreed with you to be held in the closest business area. You’ll be able to switch to office job without changing your responsibilities as soon as company opens an office in your city. For the present the offices in London, Liverpool, Manchester, Birmingham, Nottingham and Leicester are going to be opened.





SALARY

Should you accept this offer, your annual BASE will be:
- FULL TIME: 28300 (Bonus, Training).
- PART-TIME: 18700 (Bonus, Training).
Starting salary is £400 per week (full -time) and £340 per week (part - time), paid in biweekly installments by your choice of check or direct deposit (it will be agreed with you personally already on 1st interview).

Performance Bonuses: Up to three percent of your annual gross salary, paid quarterly by your choice of check or direct deposit.
You will be provided with all company benefits during the training period.





During the training period you will be paid daily.



In the future, after raising the level of skills, there is a possibility of having business trips to different countries (all the expenses, including abode, traveling expenses and travel allowance, are paid by the company).

NO MONEY NEEDED FOR JOB [TRAINING COURSES] OR ANYTHING.
THE COMPANY WILL PAY FOR IT ALL.


HOW TO APPLY


If you are interested in the position and ready to start working, please fill out the attached employment application and send it in reply to this e-mail address. You can fill it out on your PC or print it out and fill it by hand (in that case please write block letters; illegible applications may be excluded from consideration). You will be contacted by a company manager within 24 hours. You can start the training course within 1-4 business days after signing the application.

Is it a con or a real job?:A

Total con Google wagner job Scam 911 and you see what it means plus any companie asking for bank details to pay in wages you not yet started rings bells to me....sorry but why would they do that even job sites tell people not to pass your bank details while job looking