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Is this a scam or real job?
ray_of_sunshine
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I have put my CV on a few job sites and Wagner business has set me some forms and about this job they are offering, i will copy and print and can anyone give me some advice, as Too good to be true comes to mind.
Wagner Business Group
If you would like to know more about our company, please visit our site
http:// wagnerbusiness.com
Wagner Business Group office: 83 Dan Road, Canton, Massachusetts 02021. Company is registered in USA with company registration number 743712004.
Our company is specialized in miscellaneous financial services, like fund management, financial customer services, insurances and others; also the company has representative offices in such countries of the world as: : USA, France, Japan, Spain, Germany.
We are hiring people from UK willing to work in an international team of high-skilled professionals of economy and finance for all the positions listed below. Any special experience is not required because our training managers ready to prepare you and provide all the information.
Information about the Position
Gather all the information about the position that you can. All vacant position information can be found below. Read the Job Description and the Advertisement carefully to understand what the position is about.
All these positions are considered as a Full Time and Part Time job. You may choose your working hours for Part Time position in your area on the 1st interview with your local supervisor.
Job Positions Job Duties Working hours
Full Time Part Time
Finance Controller Duties and Responsibilities
Here are some of the general responsibilities and duties of an accounting clerk:
1. Maintains files, including filing of general ledger journal vouchers, accounts payable documentation, and other miscellaneous filings.
2. Types a variety of documents, reports, and records.
3. Prints daily accounts payable checks and inserts checks and invoices into envelopes for mailing.
4. Prepares requisitions for office, computer, and routine supply purchases.
5. Maintains regular contact with other departments to obtain and convey information and/or to correct transactions.
6. Attends and participates in meetings as required.
7. Ensures that work area is clean, secure, and well maintained.
8. Completes special projects and miscellaneous assignments as required.
9. Discuss report results with location management.
10. Post data to sales journal.
11. Handle customer and employee accounts receivable.
12. Assist with accounts payable, prepare checks.
13. Assist with payroll preparation.
14. Other duties as assigned. Monday to Friday
(09.00 – 18.00) 2-3 hours during the day
(3-6 days per week)
ORGANIZATION PROVIDES ON-THE-JOB TRAINING!
OUR BENEFITS
You are granted benefits package:
• 25 days’ holiday plus 8 public holidays
• pension and bonus schemes
• discounted train travel, holidays and flights
• season-ticket loan
• free long-term parking at BAA airports
• subsidised food and drink at airports
• discounted shopping at airport retailers
• an Employee Assistance Programme
• critical Illness cover
• access to expert advice on health and well-being
TRAINING COURSES
Before you start to work you should pass a free 10-days training course to practice with company’s software and several financial services to be prepared in future to perform your responsibilities for these positions. The company will provide Free On-line Education Training. The training course is distant except 2 personal meetings with company’s managers in your city on the 4th and last training days. The local supervisor will receive your first practical and test results before the first interview, because in some areas we recruit stuff on a competitive basis. Since main responsibilities include work with company’s soft by the end of the training you will be provided by all the necessary equipment (internet and telephone connection) and an access to company’s software.
- You don't need to attend seminars, lectures, etc and pay for the training courses.
- You don't need any special education.
- You don't really need to buy any special equipment, just use your computer and internet connection.
- You don’t have to travel far for practising, just use the closest locations for some practical lessons.
We are providing Electronic Commerce System Training for you absolutely FREE. There are no hidden costs. The course is 10 days and will be prescribed on the next day after you fill out your application form and/or send us an e-mail confirming when you will be ready to start.
The training period wage shall amount ₤30 for each training day (2 hours training day, ₤15.00 per hour), you will receive ₤300 for 10 training days. Every practical lesson will not take more than 2 hours, as for theoretical (test part) you will be provided 24 hours to fully examine the documents that will be sent to your e-mail address. The training days don’t have to be consecutive; you may have breaks in the schedule.
Your training wage will be deposited to an account at any bank of your choice.
Distant Training is a proven, flexible way for you to take training courses at a time and place that suits you. Our interactive distant training courses are detailed-guided courses that reinforce lessons with interactivity, assignments and self-test.
We know how we develop our employees and their skills will determine our future success. The practicing is very important part of each educational process, and we offer you the training process that will lead you to high-paid home job.
We continually encourage employees to enhance their skills and knowledge, and have created a learning organization focused on providing new opportunities for growth and professional development.
After you successfully finish the training courses, you become a company’s employee and will get a certified specialist. The 1st interview with local supervisor will be personally agreed with you to be held in the closest business area. You’ll be able to switch to office job without changing your responsibilities as soon as company opens an office in your city. For the present the offices in London, Liverpool, Manchester, Birmingham, Nottingham and Leicester are going to be opened.
SALARY
Should you accept this offer, your annual BASE will be:
- FULL TIME: 28300 (Bonus, Training).
- PART-TIME: 18700 (Bonus, Training).
Starting salary is £400 per week (full -time) and £340 per week (part - time), paid in biweekly installments by your choice of check or direct deposit (it will be agreed with you personally already on 1st interview).
Performance Bonuses: Up to three percent of your annual gross salary, paid quarterly by your choice of check or direct deposit.
You will be provided with all company benefits during the training period.
During the training period you will be paid daily.
In the future, after raising the level of skills, there is a possibility of having business trips to different countries (all the expenses, including abode, traveling expenses and travel allowance, are paid by the company).
NO MONEY NEEDED FOR JOB [TRAINING COURSES] OR ANYTHING.
THE COMPANY WILL PAY FOR IT ALL.
HOW TO APPLY
If you are interested in the position and ready to start working, please fill out the attached employment application and send it in reply to this e-mail address. You can fill it out on your PC or print it out and fill it by hand (in that case please write block letters; illegible applications may be excluded from consideration). You will be contacted by a company manager within 24 hours. You can start the training course within 1-4 business days after signing the application.
Is it a con or a real job?:A
Wagner Business Group
If you would like to know more about our company, please visit our site
http:// wagnerbusiness.com
Wagner Business Group office: 83 Dan Road, Canton, Massachusetts 02021. Company is registered in USA with company registration number 743712004.
Our company is specialized in miscellaneous financial services, like fund management, financial customer services, insurances and others; also the company has representative offices in such countries of the world as: : USA, France, Japan, Spain, Germany.
We are hiring people from UK willing to work in an international team of high-skilled professionals of economy and finance for all the positions listed below. Any special experience is not required because our training managers ready to prepare you and provide all the information.
Information about the Position
Gather all the information about the position that you can. All vacant position information can be found below. Read the Job Description and the Advertisement carefully to understand what the position is about.
All these positions are considered as a Full Time and Part Time job. You may choose your working hours for Part Time position in your area on the 1st interview with your local supervisor.
Job Positions Job Duties Working hours
Full Time Part Time
Finance Controller Duties and Responsibilities
Here are some of the general responsibilities and duties of an accounting clerk:
1. Maintains files, including filing of general ledger journal vouchers, accounts payable documentation, and other miscellaneous filings.
2. Types a variety of documents, reports, and records.
3. Prints daily accounts payable checks and inserts checks and invoices into envelopes for mailing.
4. Prepares requisitions for office, computer, and routine supply purchases.
5. Maintains regular contact with other departments to obtain and convey information and/or to correct transactions.
6. Attends and participates in meetings as required.
7. Ensures that work area is clean, secure, and well maintained.
8. Completes special projects and miscellaneous assignments as required.
9. Discuss report results with location management.
10. Post data to sales journal.
11. Handle customer and employee accounts receivable.
12. Assist with accounts payable, prepare checks.
13. Assist with payroll preparation.
14. Other duties as assigned. Monday to Friday
(09.00 – 18.00) 2-3 hours during the day
(3-6 days per week)
ORGANIZATION PROVIDES ON-THE-JOB TRAINING!
OUR BENEFITS
You are granted benefits package:
• 25 days’ holiday plus 8 public holidays
• pension and bonus schemes
• discounted train travel, holidays and flights
• season-ticket loan
• free long-term parking at BAA airports
• subsidised food and drink at airports
• discounted shopping at airport retailers
• an Employee Assistance Programme
• critical Illness cover
• access to expert advice on health and well-being
TRAINING COURSES
Before you start to work you should pass a free 10-days training course to practice with company’s software and several financial services to be prepared in future to perform your responsibilities for these positions. The company will provide Free On-line Education Training. The training course is distant except 2 personal meetings with company’s managers in your city on the 4th and last training days. The local supervisor will receive your first practical and test results before the first interview, because in some areas we recruit stuff on a competitive basis. Since main responsibilities include work with company’s soft by the end of the training you will be provided by all the necessary equipment (internet and telephone connection) and an access to company’s software.
- You don't need to attend seminars, lectures, etc and pay for the training courses.
- You don't need any special education.
- You don't really need to buy any special equipment, just use your computer and internet connection.
- You don’t have to travel far for practising, just use the closest locations for some practical lessons.
We are providing Electronic Commerce System Training for you absolutely FREE. There are no hidden costs. The course is 10 days and will be prescribed on the next day after you fill out your application form and/or send us an e-mail confirming when you will be ready to start.
The training period wage shall amount ₤30 for each training day (2 hours training day, ₤15.00 per hour), you will receive ₤300 for 10 training days. Every practical lesson will not take more than 2 hours, as for theoretical (test part) you will be provided 24 hours to fully examine the documents that will be sent to your e-mail address. The training days don’t have to be consecutive; you may have breaks in the schedule.
Your training wage will be deposited to an account at any bank of your choice.
Distant Training is a proven, flexible way for you to take training courses at a time and place that suits you. Our interactive distant training courses are detailed-guided courses that reinforce lessons with interactivity, assignments and self-test.
We know how we develop our employees and their skills will determine our future success. The practicing is very important part of each educational process, and we offer you the training process that will lead you to high-paid home job.
We continually encourage employees to enhance their skills and knowledge, and have created a learning organization focused on providing new opportunities for growth and professional development.
After you successfully finish the training courses, you become a company’s employee and will get a certified specialist. The 1st interview with local supervisor will be personally agreed with you to be held in the closest business area. You’ll be able to switch to office job without changing your responsibilities as soon as company opens an office in your city. For the present the offices in London, Liverpool, Manchester, Birmingham, Nottingham and Leicester are going to be opened.
SALARY
Should you accept this offer, your annual BASE will be:
- FULL TIME: 28300 (Bonus, Training).
- PART-TIME: 18700 (Bonus, Training).
Starting salary is £400 per week (full -time) and £340 per week (part - time), paid in biweekly installments by your choice of check or direct deposit (it will be agreed with you personally already on 1st interview).
Performance Bonuses: Up to three percent of your annual gross salary, paid quarterly by your choice of check or direct deposit.
You will be provided with all company benefits during the training period.
During the training period you will be paid daily.
In the future, after raising the level of skills, there is a possibility of having business trips to different countries (all the expenses, including abode, traveling expenses and travel allowance, are paid by the company).
NO MONEY NEEDED FOR JOB [TRAINING COURSES] OR ANYTHING.
THE COMPANY WILL PAY FOR IT ALL.
HOW TO APPLY
If you are interested in the position and ready to start working, please fill out the attached employment application and send it in reply to this e-mail address. You can fill it out on your PC or print it out and fill it by hand (in that case please write block letters; illegible applications may be excluded from consideration). You will be contacted by a company manager within 24 hours. You can start the training course within 1-4 business days after signing the application.
Is it a con or a real job?:A
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Hard to tell, why not apply and find out? The job training does sound suspicious though.0
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I reckon you should apply then lemme know if its real or not so I can apply too! :j
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I'm suspicious that you can choose your hours for the part time and yet they can quote you the weekly and annual salary. Surely that would depend on what hours you are working?
If you do the 6 days a week (18 hours at 3 a day) they are paying you £22 an hour for what is market value of £7-9 an hour. If you are doing a full 8 hour day they are still paying £10 an hour which is still slightly over the market rates. Their part time wage of £340 is about 4 1/4 days out of 6 which is an assumption that seems presumptive.
It feels scammy to me. I can't specifically say it is but their job posting is just too full of "this is not a scam, honest" vibe and their website is a bit bland and talks the talk but I can see no "real" content as such.
Their press page is full of posts written half in caps in areas that I wouldn't expect like "Wagner Business Group ADDS STEVE NARSUTIS AS MANAGING DIRECTOR IN CHICAGO HEADQUARTERS OFFICE" - Which interestingly doesn't reflect on Steve Narsuitis's Linked in - that says he left the group in 2010, It might be he just hasn't updated it yet but that feels wrong. Although PR Newswire and a few other places did put a post up about it - which isn't dated by year, just month.
At least three companies claim to have aquired this one in their own name : Wagner Business Group ACQUIRES OAK STREET FUNDING - ACQUISITION ADDS SPECIALTY FINANCE PLATFORM TO COMPLEMENT EXISTING COMMERCIAL LENDING BUSINESS - If you google that is found on the websites of Glenlake Advisors Group INC, Wacker Financial Group and Wagner Business Group. I could understand it if it was only one of them and then the rest are lower companies in the groups and its actually one of them that has aquired it but it doesn't seem right as all of the posts are the same. I would have understood if it said "Glenlake Advisors Group, part of the Wagner Business Group acquires..." but it doesn't.
Honestly, this might be a completely above board company. I might just be picking at straws here. I can't find the Massachusetts businesses register (each state in the US usually has its own) to see if they all are part of the same group or not.0 -
Personally, I think they are after your bank details.
They will lure people into their trap and get their bank details to pay their 'training wage' into and the next thing you know your account will have been emptied and your identity stolen.There is nothing better in life than writing on the sole of your slipper with a biro.....0 -
I was thinking of filling out the application form without the bank details......
I got my son to google earth the address, looks like a office block, cant quite make out the name on the front of the building..will see how it goes with the application form minus the bank account details...
will let u know how i get on
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Hi, I tried to find out more about this company and this seems very strange.
You can't google it by their name, their location seems like an empty building, and reg number is not recognised in any of my searches (but I am not an expert in USA company reg numbers).
No likedin account for the company nor for the signed person (D.R.Johnson). Googling Daniel does not present any sensible results either.
I think, I'll register with an empty account and see what happens, the only thing that worries me is that their "training" software might have a bug to hack to my PC and steel passwords.
I might try to use my tablet for that!
If you know much more about them, please let me know, Ill inform you of my progress.
Normally, if something sounds too good to be true it is not!
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Hi all,
I have also had an email a few minutes ago and it did start my scam sense tingling.
I have done a Google maps street view on 83 Dan Rd MA and it looks nothing like the pic on their website.
I have replied to the email asking for more details but I feel a 99% chance this is a scam... watch this space.
BTW - Probably don't need to say this but NEVER give bank details to ANYONE without thoroughly checking them out first.
Later peeps!0 -
What can they do with an empty account except for putting money into it? Please, tell me, maybe I am a bit too naive.
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UPDATE!
After a bit of digging found that the company has added a director named Ryan DeWitte.
Google him using the following terms:
ryan dewitte adds director
He must be a VERY busy guy if he is genuinely a director of ALL of these companies at once!
Ergo - I guess this is a scam. Sorry people.
I will play with them a while though to find out what they are trying to gain.0
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