Another Pyramid Con

giveandtake_2

tomstickland wrote: »

I thought that you were bored with this?

Anyway, it doesn't matter how many people go back in etc, no money is created by the scheme. It only moves it around.
It could be that everyone ends up losing what they won earlier. But I doubt that. Far more likely is that a load of people will make a profit. But their profits are paid for by others losing.
Whatever happens, people somewhere lose money.

Did you say "a load of people will make a profit" you just smashed your supporters out of the water on these threads, they say only a small minority!! So.... If I got 23k (20k profit) and re-invested 3k how do I lose all the money I invested??
And I did get bored with the name calling but as that seems to have subsided !(I dont so much mind "dopey") I am fine to answer your questions and respond to your opinions!

giveandtake_2

trisontana wrote: »

No you have not. You have not told us how most people can make a profit without other people losing out when there is only a fixed amount of money in the pot. All that is happening is that this fixed pot of money is transferred from some people to others.

As somebody above said :-

Put 100 people in a room with £10 each and the only way you end up with no one losing money is to all leave with £10 each.

I did previously state that there is every possibility that at some point our particular chart will stop! I can trace our chart back 13 months as thus far no-one has lost their money. As I have said before there are over 500 charts at the moment, wouldnt word have gotten around by now if it didnt work? The old hearts and diamonds fell because no-one was being paid out - have you ever seen 300 women in one room? Believe me... they talk, if 400 or so charts hadnt paid out, they wouldnt even be there!

lesley1960

giveandtake wrote: »

Did you say "a load of people will make a profit" you just smashed your supporters out of the water on these threads, they say only a small minority!! So.... If I got 23k (20k profit) and re-invested 3k how do I lose all the money I invested??
And I did get bored with the name calling but as that seems to have subsided !(I dont so much mind "dopey") I am fine to answer your questions and respond to your opinions!

YOU wont lose all your money ( if infact you actually received the £23k ) , however people further down the chain most certainly will.( its not rocket science afterall )

I suspect however you are posting in an attempt to persuade people that they can profit by this scam and invest , ensuring that you do not lose the money you have deposited

giveandtake_2

lesley1960 wrote: »

YOU wont lose all your money ( if infact you actually received the £23k ) , however people further down the chain most certainly will.( its not rocket science afterall )

I suspect however you are posting in an attempt to persuade people that they can profit by this scam and invest , ensuring that you do not lose the money you have deposited

God......... You are having a laugh!! no-one on the face of the earth knows I am posting this, hence the reason why I certainly will not provide my name and address as someone actually requested......I know you will scoff at this but this is not allowed, there was a lady who was taken off her chart for putting leaflets through doors to contact her..... it makes is a business, taking it outside of private residence! I honestly dont know anyone who has lost their money......... some take 8 weeks and some take 7 months...but they get it.

trisontana

giveandtake wrote: »

God......... You are having a laugh!! no-one on the face of the earth knows I am posting this, hence the reason why I certainly will not provide my name and address as someone actually requested......I know you will scoff at this but this is not allowed, there was a lady who was taken off her chart for putting leaflets through doors to contact her..... it makes is a business, taking it outside of private residence! I honestly dont know anyone who has lost their money......... some take 8 weeks and some take 7 months...but they get it.

But where does that money come from? Somebody has got to lose money for other people to gain it.

lesley1960

giveandtake wrote: »

God......... You are having a laugh!! no-one on the face of the earth knows I am posting this, hence the reason why I certainly will not provide my name and address as someone actually requested......I know you will scoff at this but this is not allowed, there was a lady who was taken off her chart for putting leaflets through doors to contact her..... it makes is a business, taking it outside of private residence! I honestly dont know anyone who has lost their money......... some take 8 weeks and some take 7 months...but they get it.

What has people knowing your name got to do with what I said ?

Why else are you so keen to promote this scheme if not to try to get more people to lose their money ........i mean invest

giveandtake_2

trisontana wrote: »

But where does that money come from? Somebody has got to lose money for other people to gain it.

Despite popular belief, I do understand what you are getting at!.. please refer to all of the other posts. ITS A RISK WE ALL TAKE!! THERE IS A CHANCE THAT 7 PEOPLE WILL LOSE THEIR 3K AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, AT LEAST 3/4 OF THEM WILL BE RE-INVESTORS ANYWAY WHO WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO GIVE THEIR FRIENDS AND FAMILY THEIR MONEY BACK OUT OF THEIR PROFIT, IF MY CHART STOPPED AFTER I HAD HAD 3 PAY-OUTS YOU CAN BET YOUR !!! THAT I WOULD GIVE MY FRIEND AND HER SISTER THEIR 3K BACK!!! I AM NOT A HEARTLESS VICTIM/CON/SCAM ARTIST/THEIF/DOPE/MONEY LAUNDERERING IDIOT!!!

giveandtake_2

lesley1960 wrote: »

What has people knowing your name got to do with what I said ?

Why else are you so keen to promote this scheme if not to try to get more people to lose their money ........i mean invest

Someone asked me yesterday to post my name and address on here, I was simply referring to it in your reply!

If you think this is one big promotion your have certainly never worked in the Marketing field.......!! Several people against one? All I am doing is answering your questions. If you refer back to my (very innocent) post back in June I simply said I would let you all know what my experience was like.

tomstickland

giveandtake wrote: »

I have answered every question thrown at me, you just attacked all them all

That's because none of your answers make sense.

I can't decide whether you really believe it works or are just spreading confusion in an attempt to make it look plausible.

You've claimed that everyone will make money. Those who come in last could lose money, but they could be winners from another "chart".
That doesn't work.
No money is created at any point with this scam. So all it can do is move it around. It is impossible for everyone to make a profit.

tomstickland

giveandtake wrote: »

. ITS A RISK WE ALL TAKE!! THERE IS A CHANCE THAT 7 PEOPLE WILL LOSE THEIR 3K AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE, AT LEAST 3/4 OF THEM WILL BE RE-INVESTORS ANYWAY WHO WOULD BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO GIVE THEIR FRIENDS AND FAMILY THEIR MONEY BACK OUT OF THEIR PROFIT, IF MY CHART STOPPED AFTER I HAD HAD 3 PAY-OUTS YOU CAN BET YOUR !!! THAT I WOULD GIVE MY FRIEND AND HER SISTER THEIR 3K BACK!!! I AM NOT A HEARTLESS VICTIM/CON/SCAM ARTIST/THEIF/DOPE/MONEY LAUNDERERING IDIOT!!!

If you gave them their £3K back then you'd lose out, because you'd have already paid that to the next person up the pyramid. So you'd have to dismantle the whole pyramid and end up back where you started.

Like I said, you are only moving money around. Those who profit make their money from those who lose. It might take a while, 2 years even, for it to fail, but it will fail.