Nice people thread part 5 - nicely does it

michaels

I don't think using a Euclidean distance makes sense when adding apples and pears but thanks for the thought.

PasturesNew wrote: »

Square it, then square root it.
All I can offer...

chewmylegoff

PasturesNew wrote: »

I think hairdressing is a great idea.... as I see it, it's something you can get a job at, build up your own "mobile hairdressing" business evenings/weekends, or just specialise and do "wedding hair" on Saturdays. Then there's the whole "rent a chair" system at a lot of salons.

I've never seen a hairdresser with a cheap car.... however, there's a stigma. At my school, if you couldn't read or write, you'd be bussed out to hairdressing school from 14-16, so I always associate hairdressers with thick people

The chap who cuts my hair charges £10 a go. He said his shop rent was £17kpa. I dont think he'll be making megabucks.

It's all in cutting birds' hair, and charging then £100 for the "experience". Typical OH comment "yeah it sounds expensive bit they gave me a free glass of champagne." Don't think she understands what "free" means.

PasturesNew

michaels wrote: »

I don't think using a Euclidean distance makes sense when adding apples and pears but thanks for the thought.

I figured I had absolutely NO idea what even the words in your posting meant ... so .... I could stay quiet and let everybody THINK I am a fool, or open my mouth and remove all possible doubt

CKhalvashi

GDB2222 wrote: »

There must be a conspiracy? :eek:

I promise you there’s not! :eek:

michaels

How long does it take him though? Mine is about a tenner and I reckon is less than 10 minutes so if he had the punters he could bill £60ph...and all of it cash iykwim

Presumably the big bucks come from paying employees minimum wage (and may be even piece work) in the other 3 chairs.

Plus the recent price increase means that rather than me paying £9 and giving a £1 tip to an employee the tenner goes in to the till as I never have any change.

chewmylegoff wrote: »

The chap who cuts my hair charges £10 a go. He said his shop rent was £17kpa. I don't think he'll be making megabucks.

It's all in cutting birds' hair, and charging then £100 for the "experience". Typical OH comment "yeah it sounds expensive bit they gave me a free glass of champagne." Don't think she understands what "free" means.

PasturesNew

chewmylegoff wrote: »

The chap who cuts my hair charges £10 a go. He said his shop rent was £17kpa. I dont think he'll be making megabucks.

It's all in cutting birds' hair, and charging then £100 for the "experience". Typical OH comment "yeah it sounds expensive bit they gave me a free glass of champagne." Don't think she understands what "free" means.

But he could be making megabucks. I also forgot to say that no matter WHERE you move to, you can always find work and are qualified (mostly) to do it. Hairdressers were even on Australia's list of approved jobs to get a work visa!!

If his rent is £17k/year, he's got the option of moving his business elsewhere, or opening for more hours. Hairdressers wherever I've known them have opened Mon-Fri 9-5/6, then Saturday mornings. You could double trade potential by opening 7am to 8pm Monday to Saturday and some Sunday hours too. And, you can do this, through working more hours, employing more staff, or even rent-a-chair.

I was staying somewhere once and she had a hairdresser that came to the house, so I had mine done too. Hairdresser was in the house 3 hours, had a couple of glasses of wine and a natter, streaked two heads of hair and walked out to her BMW with £70 cash in her hand. Materials cost was minimal.

PasturesNew

michaels wrote: »

Presumably the big bucks though from paying employees minimum wage (and may be even piece work) in the other 3 chairs.

In one of my early jobs, when I was about 21 and a PA on what I thought was "OK money for the area", I met a hairdresser at my evening job. It turned out she earnt more than me.

She got a basic wage, then a bonus based on weekly turnover, then she pocketed tips too. We added it up, she was on about 25-30% more than I was.

michaels

You were doing so well - actually your first reply did make sense in the context of the question and so had you just left it at that rather than backtracking we would all have thought PN does know about it. I was hoping that SilverCar having claimed to be a statistician might have had a view tho...

Re-reading apologies if this sounds patronising, it isn't meant to be.

PasturesNew wrote: »

I figured I had absolutely NO idea what even the words in your posting meant ... so .... I could stay quiet and let everybody THINK I am a fool, or open my mouth and remove all possible doubt

chewmylegoff

CKhalvashi wrote: »

I’m Facebooking a Georgian friend whom I met in Moscow as we speak, an the discussion is going along the lines of much higher education now being fee paid, mainly due to the Russian government budget.

This is something that’s leading to make young ex-USSR nationals not having the same opportunity that many of the previous generation had (and that includes myself), in that an undergraduate education is no longer seen as a right by the current government.

I would shot the conversation and post it up, however as it’s in Russian, there’s very little point.

It’s a shame that society is moving this way, but it’s something that seems to be becoming more and more common.

Here’s part of the conversation, for anyone that is interested.

CK

There is no such thing as a free education. If it is free at point of use then you pay through your taxes. People seem to forget this and really what it boils down to is that anyone arguing that higher education should be free at point of use is arguing that the cost should be jointly borne by those who do not use it.

To my mind this funding model sits more easily win healthcare where you are asking the rich to subsidise the poor, but not so well with higher education where you are effectively asking the poor to subsidise the rich (it's an over generalisation but graduatesare, on average, richer).

The fees system is simply a graduate tax by another name- you don't pay until afterwards. It seems fair enough to me really. No one in the UK is denied the opportunity to get the education they want by tuition fees.

PasturesNew

I often think about "trades" to see if I can think of one that I could actually manage to do.... e.g. tiling would appeal, but I'd not be able to carry all those heavy tiles round about and the mess of building work would drive me nuts.

I learnt a trade... trouble is, that trade was killed by technology.

So you need to learn a trade that doesn't require you to continually re-skill/re-qualify (look what happened to gas with Corgi, and electricians with a P Certificate, etc). And it needs to be something you can reasonably do until you're nearly 70 (nothing heavy). And it needs to be something that doesn't actually require "talent", but can be learnt. And it needs to be something that a machine can't do faster/better/cheaper.

Any ideas?