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Relative got scammed by 'Windows' cold call - how to ensure computer is safe?

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  • Bored
    Bored Posts: 390 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 100 Posts Name Dropper Debt-free and Proud!
    How do I go about reinstalling Windows? The PC is about 8 years old so I have no memory of whether it came with a disk or not, but I definitely don't have it now.
    2023 Mortgage-Free Wannabe #19: £11,675.68/£13,000
    Mortgage Overpayment Total: £22,397.1
  • sillygoose
    sillygoose Posts: 4,795 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture
    1st think they do is direct people to look at the Windows Event Viewer log, on virtually any system this shows some 'normal' errors due to left overs from past programs, unneeded drivers etc. They tell people this is a sign of virus infection and as most people have never looked at this in their life they believe it (we are all told computers are infallible so 'errors' must mean a problem right?)

    Then they try to get you a website to download the cure.. (logmein or remote access permission etc)

    From the sounds of it they didn't get this far with your Mum. I wouldn't panic just yet. I would run a check with Malwarebytes, run updates and scans with your antivirus.
  • Bored
    Bored Posts: 390 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 100 Posts Name Dropper Debt-free and Proud!
    That's what I'm hoping, but I'm still feeling paranoid since I don't know exactly what she clicked or did whilst on the phone.

    Malwarebytes scan running at the moment.
    2023 Mortgage-Free Wannabe #19: £11,675.68/£13,000
    Mortgage Overpayment Total: £22,397.1
  • macman
    macman Posts: 53,129 Forumite
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    Look in Control Panel>Programs and see what software has recently been installed.
    There's no evidence that they have done anything other than make her open Event Viewer in order to show scary 'viruses'.
    If you don't have the OS install disks then you can't do a reinstall, but you could possibly do a Factory Restore after you have backed up all your data.
    I'd settle for a full MBAM and AV scan first (assuming a decent one is installed).
    No free lunch, and no free laptop ;)
  • JasX
    JasX Posts: 3,996 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 1,000 Posts Combo Breaker
    If you want to go the reformat route a good start would be confirming the make and model, which version of windows its running and whether or not you have an intact windows license sticker on the PC somewhere with a readable license key (don't post the actual key).

    you can gauge how easy that route will be then.

    (eg major manufacturer like dell - all drivers readily available in one place online etc etc and probably not even needing the license sticker would be a better place to start from than say.... unknown brand, no sticker, god knows what hardware is in the thing or what drivers it might need )
  • Bored
    Bored Posts: 390 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 100 Posts Name Dropper Debt-free and Proud!
    It's a hp pavilion (can't find the exact model written anywhere) running XP home edition. I've found the product key on written on the side.
    2023 Mortgage-Free Wannabe #19: £11,675.68/£13,000
    Mortgage Overpayment Total: £22,397.1
  • Bored
    Bored Posts: 390 Forumite
    Part of the Furniture 100 Posts Name Dropper Debt-free and Proud!
    Malwarebytes full scan just finished and came back clear, as did the Avast antivirus scan.
    2023 Mortgage-Free Wannabe #19: £11,675.68/£13,000
    Mortgage Overpayment Total: £22,397.1
  • Bored wrote: »
    Malwarebytes full scan just finished and came back clear, as did the Avast antivirus scan.

    Doesn't mean that you're home safe. You need to find a good app to hunt for rootkits.

    Personally if she only uses it for internet stuff and a bit of word processing I'd shove Linux Mint on it.
  • londonTiger
    londonTiger Posts: 4,903 Forumite
    dont let kids and old people use an account with admin privelages

    set them up to use a limited account which does not have installation or system modification privelages
  • bod1467
    bod1467 Posts: 15,214 Forumite
    Did she definitely use Chrome? Maybe these scammers directed her to use Internet Explorer? Have you checked its history too?
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