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Inland Revenue demand for £8997

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  • antonic
    antonic Posts: 1,981 Forumite
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    Martyboy - for your info

    http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/sa/late-return-pens.htm

    Hopefully this will explain why you have such a debt.

    One more question, do you have ANY OTHER returns outstanding ?
  • MartyBoy
    MartyBoy Posts: 32 Forumite
    antonic wrote: »
    Martyboy - for your info

    http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/sa/late-return-pens.htm

    Hopefully this will explain why you have such a debt.

    One more question, do you have ANY OTHER returns outstanding ?

    Thanks, will take a look at that one. No other returns outstanding.

    Regards

    MartyBoy
  • chrismac1
    chrismac1 Posts: 2,585 Forumite
    "I've asked the Newcastle Office if I can submit one. It's taken 5 letters and 4 phone calls and I still don't have an answer."

    In these cases I never ask HMRC for their advice. Often as you've found they are simply too rubbish. Even when you get it - unlike advice given by me to clients, for example - you have no redress if it turns out to be incorrect. In this case I would file the return, make them a written offer and then the ball is firmly in their court. I always want my clients to be taking the fight to these guys, not sitting back being driven around by the latest daft decision by some jobsworth in a random tax office.
    Hideous Muddles from Right Charlies
  • MartyBoy
    MartyBoy Posts: 32 Forumite
    Thanks Chris. I sent a recorded delivery letter yesterday making them an offer. I will also file the return and send that by recorded delivery too. Really appreciate the support and advice!
  • WhiteHorse
    WhiteHorse Posts: 2,492 Forumite
    BoGoF wrote: »
    Two x £100 penalties plus the £500 determination plus the POA's of £250 each = £1200......seems a helluva lot of interest to make it £9k? Ask them for a latest statement of account.
    Always demand that they show their workings. Very often they can't, either because the file is in a mess, or because they simply made the figure up.

    A self-employed tradesman of my acquaintance was told that he owed £8000. He refused to pay and demanded that they prove their case.

    They responded by setting debt collectors on him. That led to a violent scene on the doorstep and his wife and children being terrorised by thugs. They didn't get anything however.

    A few days letter he got a letter stating that he had actually overpaid by £2000.
    "Never underestimate the mindless force of a government bureaucracy
    seeking to expand its power, dominion and budget"
    Jay Stanley, American Civil Liberties Union.
  • MartyBoy
    MartyBoy Posts: 32 Forumite
    LMPGroup wrote: »
    Keep us updated!

    I will do!
  • MartyBoy
    MartyBoy Posts: 32 Forumite
    WhiteHorse wrote: »
    Always demand that they show their workings. Very often they can't, either because the file is in a mess, or because they simply made the figure up.

    A self-employed tradesman of my acquaintance was told that he owed £8000. He refused to pay and demanded that they prove their case.

    They responded by setting debt collectors on him. That led to a violent scene on the doorstep and his wife and children being terrorised by thugs. They didn't get anything however.

    A few days letter he got a letter stating that he had actually overpaid by £2000.

    What a shocking story. Thanks for the advice, I will make sure that I demand calculations.
  • BoGoF
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    I would imagine that that story is somewhat abbreviated and exaggerated.
  • antonic
    antonic Posts: 1,981 Forumite
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    and one sided
    BoGoF wrote: »
    I would imagine that that story is somewhat abbreviated and exaggerated.
  • WhiteHorse
    WhiteHorse Posts: 2,492 Forumite
    BoGoF wrote: »
    I would imagine that that story is somewhat abbreviated and exaggerated.
    Your faith in the government is touching.
    "Never underestimate the mindless force of a government bureaucracy
    seeking to expand its power, dominion and budget"
    Jay Stanley, American Civil Liberties Union.
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