"You didn't want your penny did you?"

Pound

toadyfrog

My local petrol garage has a little tray for all the pennies left behind, so when someones bill is £**.01 they take the penny out of the tray.

symikins

Alex-Riley. wrote: »

What the hell are you going to do with a penny

if it's less then 5p i don't bother

say you wanted to buy something and found you were 5p short of the full amount , would they would still let you have it ?

l dont think so unless your VERY lucky
and just think of what you could buy with the hundreds of 5p,s you,ve not bothered with

that 5p could let you have a wee if your caught short someday

OR give to your favorite charity like RNLI [we are an island after all] air ambulance, rspca, cancer research ect ect

imho unless you,ve hit rock bottom financially you will find you value EVERY penny that you have


better still l,ll pm you my bank details you can pop the dosh into that :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

unholyangel

fluffnutter wrote: »

So when I offer £5 for an item on sale for a tenner, that's OK too? If I can't demand change when I offer more, than a shop can't demand more money if I offer less.

I have offered less money in shops before and sometimes they accept. You should know from consumer rights board that no contract exists until offer and acceptance takes place.

In the first case, you are offering £10 in exchange for the goods, technically you are not offering £9.99. I'm not saying I agree shops should keep the change - it could be argued custom and practice to give change therefore it is an implied term.

The same if it is a £100 item, I can offer £90 and the shop can accept this.

So many people don't ask for discounts and just take the price on the shelf. If you are spending considerable amounts in a store, it is always a good idea to ask what discount they can give you - even "national chains". While the likes of ASDA may not offer a discount, other stores like Comet can. You could also ask what they will offer free. For example.....buying a hoover in the past I have had a few packs of bags thrown in for free (pre-dyson days ). When buying expensive items and especially several expensive items, I have asked for a discount and received one.

miss_independent

Wow, I've been off the boards for a few days due to being ill and shocked to see how much my little penny thread has grown! Thanks for all the replies!

Alex-Riley.

symikins wrote: »

say you wanted to buy something and found you were 5p short of the full amount , would they would still let you have it ?

l dont think so unless your VERY lucky
and just think of what you could buy with the hundreds of 5p,s you,ve not bothered with

that 5p could let you have a wee if your caught short someday

OR give to your favorite charity like RNLI [we are an island after all] air ambulance, rspca, cancer research ect ect

imho unless you,ve hit rock bottom financially you will find you value EVERY penny that you have


better still l,ll pm you my bank details you can pop the dosh into that :rotfl::rotfl::rotfl:

actually i once did get 12 cans of coke for £1 less because I didn't have the money:p

Peanuckle

esuhl wrote: »

I can imagine the outcry: "Hey, Bluebeary! This till is 3p up! We have too much money! The day is ruined! You're fired!"

You could just pocket the change yourself if the customer walks off and you're not "allowed" to keep it in the till...

Although it's the customer's penny to do with as they please, it's also their time, so you can't make them wait so you can give them change.

It does happen, I once got an official warning because my till was £1 up after a shift. Any deviation from the amount that should be in the till is a disciplinary offence in a lot of retail outlets

SHIPSHAPE

WelshBluebird wrote: »

What about a situation where you are normally expected to consume the goods before paying, like a restaurant?

In situations like this payment is expected 'on the spot,' like a taxi fare.

The restaurant can display what they want regarding refusing a £50 note but one would still be attempting to pay if all one had was a £50 note.

If they still refused then the restaurant and you would have to come to some agreement where you could pay later in acceptable notes so you could not be accused of making off without payment.

The contract simply goes beyond 'on the spot payment' and is ended when the agreement is fulfilled at that later time.

esuhl

Azari wrote: »

For a charge of theft to apply they would need to prove that you had seen and understood the notice. It is not at all uncommon for people to start drinking before the bill has been paid, particularly where large rounds are involved.

Of course. You couldn't have a legal case where no proof was offered! But proof isn't relevant to the debate about what is and isn't legal. Knowing the law is one thing; proving it has been broken is quite another.

Azari wrote: »

No, {legal tender} is what is legally deemed to be acceptable for the settlement of a debt {not specifically a court debt}.

The Royal Mint web site defines legal tender by saying that, "a debtor cannot successfully be sued for non-payment if he pays into court in legal tender"...

Azari wrote: »

I'm not sure where this 'not obliged to give change' idea springs from.

The Royal Mint site goes on to say that, "In order to comply with the very strict rules governing an actual legal tender it is necessary, for example, actually to offer the exact amount due because no change can be demanded."

money_savings_my_game

unholyangel wrote: »

Its been said on this site quite a few times that realistically, you should pay in the exact amount because no change can be demanded.

If for example something is £9.99 and you offer £10 as payment....you're offering £10 in exchange for the goods, not £9.99.
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This is correct in part, not whole. No change can be demanded, true - meaning that a shop does not have to give you change if they dont have it. Something which they must say prior to taking your money in payment.

If an item is advertised at a price e.g. £9.99 and the buyer hands over £10 it is perfectly reasonable and legally sound that the buyers' intent was to only pay £9.99 and recieve 1p back, unless stating otherwise (since the price is marked at £9.99) Handing over a £10 note is not creating a contract to buy the item at £10.