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Which drill to buy?

SDS Hammer Drill?
Have moved into a 1930's built bungalow and can't drill anything deeper than 1.5cm max into crumbling plaster before hitting what feels like steel esp on the chimney breast. I have tried a hammer drill today (Bosch PSB 750RCE) but it was no better than my 20yr old black & decker.

I wondered about hiring one but the deposit was more than the cost of the drill I've just bought,

should invest in a SDS drill? it will be better value than getting a handyman in whenever I want to hang a picture etc.

What is the main difference with an ordinary hammer drill? Any advice on models and what specs I should look for before buying? Do I need to use specific rawl plugs etc

On a tight budget so thinking of this one
Titan TTB277SDS 3.5kg SDS Plus Rotary Hammer Drill 230V


Thanks folks
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  • ormus
    ormus Posts: 42,714 Forumite
    ive got the cheap 49 quid one from screwfix. good value for the money.

    does all the jobs i need for a diy,er.

    you really need an SDS drill for concrete etc.... goes thro it like a hot knife in butter.
    Get some gorm.
  • ic
    ic Posts: 3,435 Forumite
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    I have an Erbaurer (Screwfix own brand) li-ion 18V cordless hammer drill, does all the jobs I need on my 1897 terrace. Some of the brick is very tough, especially the engineering brick on the outside - I just find I need to replace the drill bits from time to time as they do wear. Only time I need an SDS is when I'm going all the way through the wall or chiselling the brick.
  • If you are doing heavy concrete work (and you've got muscle yourself) have a look at this
    http://www.screwfix.com/p/titan-pdh26s6-6kg-sds-plus-drill-230v/88854
  • Norman_Castle
    Norman_Castle Posts: 11,871 Forumite
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    I have tried a hammer drill today (Bosch PSB 750RCE) but it was no better than my 20yr old black & decker.
    Can I ask a few simple questions. Are you using masonry drills?, is the drill set to hammer?, are you pushing the drill into the wall while drilling?. Do you know what you are drilling into?.
  • SDS Hammer Drill?
    before hitting what feels like steel

    Really? Then you should be more concerned about the drill bit than the drill.
  • "Really? Then you should be more concerned about the drill bit than the drill."

    I'm drilling into brick underneath approx 1/4 inch of plaster and using a masonary bit. I checked with the handy man who works for the housing dept and has done work on the place before I moved in.

    I'd use him again but can't afford to pay for him to come around everytime I need to hang something. I want to buy the right drill for the job so that I can do the work myself & I'm on a very tight budget. I was hoping for some advice because I haven't had this problem in my previous homes and I'm not a professional.

    I'll try Screwfix tomorrow. Cheers anyway folks.
  • closed
    closed Posts: 10,886 Forumite
    edited 12 January 2012 at 8:02PM
    any mains drill runnig at full speed should go into brick if you are using the correct drill bit, hammer drillls just speed up the process. Is the tip still in the masonry bit?

    Unless your picture is heavy or plaster crumbly you don't always need to drill.
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  • Decent quality drill bits help a lot IMO. Depending upon what you are drilling, especially concrete types. Cheap ones can get ripped to piece when drilling some types of concrete, while a good SDS Bosch drill bit will survive some of the toughest materials in my experience. I don't think there is a big price difference between a Bosch drill bit and a no name type for smaller sized bits. It's only the large sizes >16-18mm which can get very expensive.
  • closed wrote: »
    any mains drill runnig at full speed should go into brick if you are using the correct drill bit, hammer drillls just speed up the process. Is the tip still in the masonry bit?

    Unless your picture is heavy or plaster crumbly you don't always need to drill.

    thanks, that's exactly my situation: heavy pictures / mirrors / shelves & the plaster is crumbly. My old drill just couldn't deal with it (might well be blunted by now). The drill I linked above comes with masonary bits so will be using new ones this time.


    Funny, I was thinking of that one too! but want to buy in a shop so I can ask any Q's before I use it. There is something simmilar ar scerwfix I'll check it out tomorrow.


    Thanks APS, that's good to know about the bits. I'll think about some Bosch bits if the ones with the drill aren't too good.

    Thanks guys, I feel more confident as to what to buy now.

    Cheers
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