Visa for travel to the USA

VestanPance

Let's just agree to disagree.

You think he should follow the rules. I'd bet a years wage he'll waltz through immigration without doing so.

claire16c

Lets face it plenty of people will tick no, either through not bothering to even read the question properly, or knowingly ticking it. The chances of a guy at the immigration desk not letting you through is small. Its whether the OP wants to take the chance or not. If they apply for a visa, there is no guarantee they will get one anyway - although I have read reports of people pleading their cases at the embassy and getting a visa. Of course even with that you would then get a barrage of questions as to why you have a visa and are not on the visa waiver programme.

Whenever Ive gone to the US they mainly seem to be concerned if you are trying to work there.

However, I do know one guy who was asked several times, maybe to see if hed slip up, if he had ever committed a crime or been arrested. He hadnt, so he had no problem saying no (although when someone asks you stuff like that at immigration they tend to make you feel guilty anyway!) but if someone was panicking I could see them fessing up, and probably being sent on the next plane home.

Im not sure how an assault on someone would not be moral turpitude though.

scottishperson2

VestanPance wrote: »

Let's just agree to disagree.

You think he should follow the rules. I'd bet a years wage he'll waltz through immigration without doing so.

He'll get through because his crime is (more than likely) not one involving moral turpitude - unless he drops a clanger on his way through.

claire16c wrote: »

Im not sure how an assault on someone would not be moral turpitude though.

Simple assault has been found not to be.

VestanPance

scottishperson2 wrote: »

He'll get through because his crime is (more than likely) not one involving moral turpitude - unless he drops a clanger on his way through.

Your faith in government systems working is disturbing. Particularly ones as complex as this if they did actually bother to check the details on the ESTAs of anyone not reg flagged.

scottishperson2

VestanPance wrote: »

Your faith in government systems working is disturbing.

Again, I haven't said that. I said he'd get through because he more than likely meets the requirements of the VWP.

travellerboy

Handbags at dawn !!

scottishperson2

travellerboy wrote: »

Handbags at dawn !!

Not a CiMT.

Tojo_Ralph

I love these Moral Turpitude ESTA threads.

So what have I concluded? Well, pretty much what I conclude every Moral Turpitude ESTA thread.

a) US immigration authorities are able to request the details of any criminal convictions a passenger may have and that are held on the UK Police National Computer on an individual case by case basis through Interpol channels should they wish to see them.

b) US immigration authorities do not have carte blanche passenger by passenger data from the PNC.

c) There will always be two posters with completely different opinions of the action to be taken by the OP.

d) Any system that requires an ex hooker to declare their past whilst allowing a joy riding, drunk driving, loan shark who mails obcene letters as a hobby to keep shtum is stooopid.

d) 98%+ of those who do not qualify to use the Visa Waiver process must use it anyway. (MHO based on data available on the Tinternet indicating the percentage of the UK with criminal convictions/arrest records and guesstimates of visa applications by UK citizens)

e) For whatever reason, the phrase Moral Turpitude reminds that Americans have hang ups with nudity and of Ewan MacGregor on a chat show moaning that cinema going Americans never get to see his willy.

scottishperson2

Tojo_Ralph wrote: »

So what have I concluded? Well, pretty much what I conclude every Moral Turpitude ESTA thread.

Its fun though.

Pont

It seems like the OP has heard both sides now!

Just as an addition, if the OP is flying direct into Vegas McCarran, immigration there are not in the same league as the somewhat over zealous East Coast branch!

Have a wonderful birthday.