overpayment scam

porkev

Has someone given the banks new powers?

sorry I call charges fines, but thats me

cheers
Kevin

scheming_gypsy

goodz wrote: »

No, you're wrong, you don't understand, it's an active criminal gang at large doing crime and attempting to do crime. That's a job for the police. That's what the cops are supposed to do, catch criminals. Not that they bother much, of course. Which is one of the main reasons why there's always so much crime everywhere all the time.

Nope I'm not wrong. Just because we know it's a scam and the police would know it's a scam, there still hasn't been any crime committed so the police couldn't arrest anybody or charge them.
If the police got involved at this point, the gang could quite easily carry out a legitimate transaction. The cheque clears and the seller gives them the 'change' from the cheque.

goodz

porkev wrote: »

thank you for your replies,
It just looked weird to me because when I suggested they stop the cheque at the bank and send another one for the right amount they got very evasive why sending them the balance was the easiest way, also when I checked the address on the back of the envelope the name , the address, the postcode were all true but they didn't go together,
I said last night I had shredded it, which I was going to do but I changed my mind and today I took it to Barclays (issueing bank) after about 1/2 an hour they said though the numbers on the cheque were ok, it looked nothing like the signature they had on file so they suggested going to the police which I did straight away, they took a some info from me and I have to go back tomorrow with the emails that she(he/it) had sent me;
I know no crime has been committed as such and I don't expect anything to happen but if it maybe stops one person getting caught, it is worth the effort
many thanks
Kevin

Well done, good on you, more power to your elbow. Yes, citizens have to do what we can to stop the bad people getting away with it. There's far too much crime happening everywhere all the time, the government, police and justice system continue to fail to do their jobs and continue to fail to stop the crime or do anything about it so we all have to do what we can.

Yes, good for you Kevin, keep up the good work.

If you've got the time and energy, yes, do follow this up and try to make the police do their job. Of course they will try not to do their jobs if they can possibly get away with it.

But do what you can to try to make them do what we taxpayers pay them to do. Rather than allow them to just fob you off and deliberately knowingly allow the criminals to keep doing their crimes.

Which unfortunately in UK is mostly what the failed unfit for purpose negligent incompetent police do, as many people who have to try to get some service and work out of them report.

goodz

scheming_gypsy wrote: »

Nope I'm not wrong. Just because we know it's a scam and the police would know it's a scam, there still hasn't been any crime committed so the police couldn't arrest anybody or charge them.
If the police got involved at this point, the gang could quite easily carry out a legitimate transaction. The cheque clears and the seller gives them the 'change' from the cheque.

No, you're wrong and you don't understand, as you here demonstrate again, abundantly clearly for all to see.

goodz

zagfles wrote: »

The OP hasn't been a victim of any crime and can't be certain this is a scam at all. It is not up to the OP to report it to the police, it's up to the bank. Which is why I suggested reporting it to the bank the cheque was drawn on as they'll be able to determine if/what crime has been committed, and deal with it appropriately.

No, you're wrong and you don't understand, criminals and crime are reported to the police who are then supposed to stop it, that's what we do here in Britain.

zagfles

goodz wrote: »

No, you're wrong and you don't understand, criminals and crime are reported to the police who are then supposed to stop it, that's what we do here in Britain.

Tell you what, if you just keep repeating the same thing over and over again, people will eventually believe you're right.

scheming_gypsy

goodz wrote: »

No, you're wrong and you don't understand, as you here demonstrate again, abundantly clearly for all to see.

no, that's what you're doing.

It's quite simple. A person has said 'can you do this please', no crime committed as yet. Although I don't know why i bother replying as going off your posts you struggle to make the grade of 'troll'

porkev

hiya, I don't think we need to resort to name calling, I know no crime has been committed as such (apart from maybe falsely using someones cheque-book) but as the policeman said today, "we may not be able to do anything, but if no-one tells us we definitely can't",

I went to the issueing bank yesterday as although I am not a customer of Barclays I thought they might like to know one of their customers accounts MAY have been used in a scam,but they weren't interested, just told me to go to the police so I did,today I was there for an hour, he took a 2 page statement and kept the cheque, envelope and emails as evidence and said they had a WPC who was on light duties so it would be her project,

now for all I know they may have put it through the shredder after I left, but I feel I have done my bit:

cheers
Kevin

ayayay

Well done for going to the police, although given that the villains are undoubtedly overseas nothing is likely to happen. Contrary to what the bar room lawyers on here say, there undoubtedly has been a crime committed. Forgery and fraud by misrepresentation immediately spring to mind. There doesnt have to a victim (yet) for a crime to have been committed.

kizkiz

I've arrested people for presenting stolen cheques that have turned out to be innocent dupes of Gumtree scams.
you could get a lot more than a slap on the wrist from the bank