Face-to-face fundrasing

DrFluffy

Tribune wrote:

I do not give to chuggers - the ones out in Central London, especially on High Holborn and Farringdon are rude and aggressive.

That's because they're under pressure from their managers. There is a phenominal amount of pressure under fundraisers. Plus they tend to be the minority.

I'd say MAJORITY. Even the Mayor wants them gone...

I'm sorry to hear that you've had bad experiences but there's no need to be... well, my mother said if you can't say anything nice...

Sorry - I hadn't realised that only your view point was valid - my bad :rolleyes:. Only a fool puts up with bullying and dirty underhand tactics. Putting up with such behaviour is pathetic. So do you think victims of domestic abuse should keep quiet, or people being abused? Do you think people who have been defrauded, robbed or mugged should say nothing? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes: Your mum needs a reality check.

Karnam

i too have worked on face to face and it is horrible difficult and demotivating. but then again 99% of people do it because they are skint.

its worth bearing in mind that these people get paid upwards of £7 (i heard of someone earning £15 an hour) in order to motivate them.

but 40% of all money donated is reinvested into fundraising. and this is not just face to face, this is the advert you read on the tube, the advert on the tv, the free text messages you get.

no matter how you donate money it will do back to the charity, and they will slowly reinvest it into fundraising. the only way to avoid paying for these 'chuggers' (again i hate this too) is to donate time, clothes and other things for thier shops etc.

Karnam

and i want to finally add, that the rude people are generally far and few between.

most people will not approach you if you shake your head when you catch thier eye, or if you are completely stand offish. you cant persuade someone who already hates what you are doing

people who do these jobs are recruited for being upbeat, cheerful and enthusiastic. that is an outgoing personality that might catch your attention but is not always popular.

Tribune

DrFluffy wrote:

Er, - given the !!!! wished cancer on me for not giving my card details, I thought it more than fine to point out I volunteer, rather than get paid for doing something.

I've never condoned bullying. The problem with commercial based fundraising is that, in order to turn a profit, the fundraisers themselves are put under phenominal pressure.

I'll say it now: the fundraiser you spoke to was well out of order. You are right to be annoyed and offended by their behaviour. I would be too.

However, whether or not you had bad experiences, it's pritty bad to make people feel gulity for getting paid for working, or insinuate that it's a bad thing, which is my point here. Fundraising is a job at the end of the day, and no matter how much we all wish it was different, it still costs charities money to raise money. From the bigger ones like the NSPCC with the billboards and the TV campaigns, to the small community hospice having an open day, it all costs money.

Whether or not the fundraiser you spoke to was out of order has nothing to do with the fact that they were being paid. If you have bad customer service experience at a bank, for example, I very much doubt you would call into question their pay. It's the same here. The fundraiser was being a muppet, but that wasn't because they were being paid - they obviously lack social skills, which you are at perfect liberty to point out.

In my experience most Chuggers are the same. Some are nice and polite (I can count them on one hand), the majority I've encountered are aggressive and are doing more harm than good. As I said, I no longer support any charity that employs such collecting techniques, and I know I am part of a huge and growin army.

How you choose to donate to charity, if indeed you do at all, is your own affair, as I stated in the OP. It's none of my business, and I don't particularly want to know either (given that I don't want people to know how I do things either).

If bullying people in to giving cash so that the chugger can hit their target and get their bonus is acceptable to you, you need help.

I'd like for you to point out where I have said that bullying is acceptable. If you can't, then I'd like an apology.

I'd say MAJORITY.

Certainly, I can only go off my own experience, which is what we're talking about here. The people I worked with were all very pleasant people and rigidly stuck to the fundraising code. But that's my own experience. Yours is obviously different.

Sorry - I hadn't realised that only your view point was valid - my bad . Only a fool puts up with bullying and dirty underhand tactics. Putting up with such behaviour is pathetic. So do you think victims of domestic abuse should keep quiet, or people being abused? Do you think people who have been defrauded, robbed or mugged should say nothing?

Again, it's really, really bad to make such accusations from this. You see, you don't know me (so you don't know about my political activism to reduce crime and domestic violence in my area) therefore you can only go off what I've written here. If you can find something which even gives the slightest hint that I support domestic violence, fraud, robbery, or mugging, then please feel free to point it out.

It's ironic that Greenmoneysaver accused me of over-reacting. Last time I checked, I managed to construct my arguments without the need to accuse people of supporting domestiv violence or any other form of crime.

Your mum needs a reality check.

What does my mother have to do with any of this?

tomstickland

They're called chuggers as an intentional derogatory term.

Tribune

tomstickland wrote:

They're called chuggers as an intentional derogatory term.

Yes, but they're just doing a job. They at least deserve a little bit of respect and dignity, surely?

tomstickland

I've always been direct and polite to them but I can see why they cause people annoyance. It's the same as telephone canvassers, they are essentially invading your space and a lot depends on how forcefully they do this.

Tribune

If you want to stop calls from telephone canvassers, then you can register with the Telephone Preference Service. It's free to register and stops the majority of calls.

https://www.tpsonline.co.uk

Savvy_Sue

Tribune wrote:

If you want to stop calls from telephone canvassers, then you can register with the Telephone Preference Service. It's free to register and stops the majority of calls.

www.tpsonline.co.uk

Shame there's nothing similar for F2F fundraising on the street then. :rotfl:

Obviously charities use these methods because they're effective. In fact DS1 came in and said he'd set up a standing order to a charity as a result of being approached on the street. I was astonished: he's not usually very altruistic, but he certainly won't be bullied. I'm glad to hear more of his money is going to the charity than I thought at first.

nearlyrich

I have been approached by 3 charity collectors today, none of the charities were ones I would contribute to so I didn't put my hand in my pocket for any of them, none of them were disrepectful to me. I have been abused by charity workers in the past but I am more than capable of standing my ground, I contribute to the charities I choose to support.

I used to be a telesales executive, I don't remember abusing anyone who chose not to buy from me, why should charity workers be any different?