£480 wk ben cap not enough for families in London to live on.

The_White_Horse

drc wrote: »

He will until the anniversary of his claim. Then he will probably get some discretionary interim payment or they will find him a suitable council home. He has 8 kids so is probably a special case.

what is special about it? kick him and his brood onto the street. scum.

alternatively, let him buy a 9 bedroom house somewhere. yeah, thought not. heaven forbid he takes care of his own massive family.

scum.

The_White_Horse

not only should this 25k limit per year be 12k (1k a month is more than enough hand outs) - a person being given a free home should NEVER be entitled to anything more than a 2 bedroom flat. if they want to put people in houses, they can share with others, like students and young WORKING people do.

1 bedroom flat for singles and couples

2 bedroom flat for everyone else - no matter how many kids they have. that wil stop the scum breeding like bacteria.

tartanterra

Imposition of a benefits cap will allow the market to find it's correct level.

At the moment thousands of companies in London are having their employees subsidised by the taxpayer.
If the benefits cap is rigorously imposed, then they will have to pay a decent market rate for their employees - or move out of London.

It seems immoral that these companies are willing to pay a premium to bring bankers, accountants and brokers into the centre of the capital, but expect the taxpayer to subside the people who clean up after them, serve them food or provide their transport.

ukcarper

hardassets wrote: »

That's nothing what about all those foreign families with more kids than years working getting £3000 and even £4000 a week paid rent?

The question is what will happen to these big houses in the city of London? Can the LL make them into lots of smaller flats? No one in their right mind would pay £4000 a week out of their own pocket?

Does anyone know how many people are getting thousands of pounds a week?

wotsthat

ukcarper wrote: »

Does anyone know how many people are getting thousands of pounds a week?

I tried to find out some time ago but couldn't find the data. I'd imagine that it's few enough to make real little difference but enough to keep us enraged.

I wondered if there'd been a freedom of information request for this data.

kabayiri

ukcarper wrote: »

Does anyone know how many people are getting thousands of pounds a week?

Not me. At a guess I'd say 'too many'.

Having even several hundred examples of state housing support running into thousands a month highlights a broken housing administration system to me.

We pay housing officers good money to do a good job. I wonder if they feel shackled and disillusioned with how the system allows these sort of excesses.

monetaryPMbull

tartanterra wrote: »

Imposition of a benefits cap will allow the market to find it's correct level.

At the moment thousands of companies in London are having their employees subsidised by the taxpayer.
If the benefits cap is rigorously imposed, then they will have to pay a decent market rate for their employees - or move out of London.

It seems immoral that these companies are willing to pay a premium to bring bankers, accountants and brokers into the centre of the capital, but expect the taxpayer to subside the people who clean up after them, serve them food or provide their transport.

True but the cap will bring down average rents, so get ready for lower rents and property prices all round.

ukcarper wrote: »

Does anyone know how many people are getting thousands of pounds a week?

It doesn't matter how many are getting £1000's per week.

Does anyone know how many housholds are getting more than around £240 in rent and council tax benefit? Because these are the ones who will either have to move to cheaper area, or use the other half of their benefit for rent. I do not think many will choose to use their other money for rent.

Any LL's wanting to charge more than around £200 for their property will have a hard time finding a tenant one the cap comes in.

Kirri

domcastro wrote: »

The inner London estates need breaking up. I'm hoping the benefit caps will improve London. The voluntary unemployed need to be separated from one another. Yes, they'll probably riot and loot but next time they'll get shot with rubber bullets and then have to move

Agree re the estates but then where would they go to, would this not spread the problem? At least at the moment there are whole areas of inner London I can avoid at present.. It's so ingrained in them I just see problem areas being spread further if they move out..

The_White_Horse wrote: »

not only should this 25k limit per year be 12k (1k a month is more than enough hand outs) - a person being given a free home should NEVER be entitled to anything more than a 2 bedroom flat. if they want to put people in houses, they can share with others, like students and young WORKING people do.

1 bedroom flat for singles and couples

2 bedroom flat for everyone else - no matter how many kids they have. that wil stop the scum breeding like bacteria.

Even where I am in outer London, rents have gone up this year - studio flats going for £650 now! I agree on capping the limits as working people in average jobs don't have that much spare cash and I think the Government are still being over generous with their amounts, but the BTL landlords are so greedy..

ukcarper

kabayiri wrote: »

Not me. At a guess I'd say 'too many'.

Having even several hundred examples of state housing support running into thousands a month highlights a broken housing administration system to me.

We pay housing officers good money to do a good job. I wonder if they feel shackled and disillusioned with how the system allows these sort of excesses.

I'd agree it's to many as you don't have to move to far away to reduce it considerably, but have you any real proof that it is several hundred .

monetaryPMbull

Kirri wrote: »

Agree re the estates but then where would they go to, would this not spread the problem? At least at the moment there are whole areas of inner London I can avoid at present.. It's so ingrained in them I just see problem areas being spread further if they move out..



Even where I am in outer London, rents have gone up this year - studio flats going for £650 now! I agree on capping the limits as working people in average jobs don't have that much spare cash and I think the Government are still being over generous with their amounts, but the BTL landlords are so greedy..

No doubt that the high housing benefit payments have pushed up rents. Greedy LL's will have a hard time finding tenants now for any properties over £240 a week.

Where are you in outer London? I mean £650 for a studio? What will al the families with kids do in your area when they all need to find a place for about £200 a week?