dog and !!!!! birth control

jasmine33

I have an 18 month working cocker dog and a 6 month old working cocker !!!!!. They are lovely pets with good pedigrees and many FTC in their lineages. I originally wanted to use the dog as a stud dog but then I got the !!!!!. I would like to keep her intact with a view of taking pups off her.

Has anyone any views on the injection for biitches to stop them coming into season ?

Thanks.

Jojo_the_Tightfisted

BEFORE anyone goes into the rights and wrongs of breeding, I just wanted to remind everyone that the OP said these are working dogs.

jasmine33

Jojo_the_Tightfisted wrote: »

BEFORE anyone goes into the rights and wrongs of breeding, I just wanted to remind everyone that the OP said these are working dogs.

working type cockers as opposed to English cockers. They are family pets, not used for working. Just wanted to point that out if it makes any difference

Jojo_the_Tightfisted

jasmine33 wrote: »

working type cockers as opposed to English cockers. They are family pets, not used for working. Just wanted to point that out if it makes any difference

Oh.


I thought you meant they were working dogs.

Having two dogs with nice sounding lines and thinking of putting them together isn't quite the same as being a reputable professional breeder.

The injection is obviously better than having an unwanted litter, but I am sure someone will be along soon to talk about the advantages of spaying and neutering pets rather than becoming another backyard breeder.

Person_one

First of all, why do you want to breed them?

jasmine33

I don't want to breed them together. The dog has been commented on by a friend who uses her cockers for working, that she would perhaps like to use him and she knows of someone else in the working field who she thinks may want to use him too. I am fine with that as he is a great dog with a good nature. I bought him from a gamekeeper by the way.

My biitch has already been noticed by another friend who would want one of her pups if ever the situation arose that she had any. I am in no way contemplating being a back street breeder !!! I love my dogs as pets pure and simply and if friends pay compliments to them then that is a bonus.

I live in a rural area which has hunting, shooting and fishing all around and so there are always plenty folk of that fraternity going about in the towns.A lot o these folks are visitors to the area. I take it as a huge compliment if they remark on the dogs.

I would like to know what peoples thoughts are on the injection for the wee girl.

Thanks.

rising_from_the_ashes

Sorry Jasmine but you're probably not going to get much sympathy here ..... there are so many dogs already unwanted that to many of us people looking to breed their own dogs just adds to an already ever growing problem - no matter how nice your dogs are, or how many people comment or say they'll have one of the pups - it's still bringing more dogs into the world where there are too many already.

Aside from that - as for the injection - personally, I wouldn't use it as I wouldn't want to fill my dog with a load of chemicals to stop a natural event ... sorry

Croatoan

Having said that if the dogs in question are good examples of their breed and are high quality, and have had all the required health checks before breeding, and there are good owners waiting to take on the pups, I see no reason for a knee jerk reaction that they should not be bred. I don't accept that because rescues are full of dogs - mostly staffies and mutts and not Cockers - it means even high quality dogs of other breeds (or indeed the same breeds) should not be bred. Neither do I accept that breeding should only be done by the "select" few - not all established breeders are good breeders, after all one only has to look at a few websites to see reputable and show winning breeders breeding from dogs with fairly average hip and elbow scores. And anyway, by not breeding these dogs it doesn't mean any prospective owners will dash out and save a Staffie, or indeed a rescue Cocker, instead.
I personally wouldn't choose to breed my dogs because I haven't the time to ensure everything is/was right and to be honest I can do without the hassle. The OP may have the time and be willing to acquire the knowledge needed, and in which case would not, for me, deserve to be called a BYB.

Person_one

I don't think a couple of people wanting to take pups are a good enough reason to keep intact dogs and b!tches living in the same house, its madness!

The working fraternity near you will still be able to get good quality pups, there is currently no shortage of working cockers, but your life and your pets' lives will be so much easier and safer if you just get them neutered.

Where did you get your dogs from? Were the necessary health checks carried out on all four parents?

Its flattering when people say they'd love a pup from your dog, or that your dog is worth breeding from, and I'm sure they are lovely dogs, but generally people are all talk and when you announce she's pregnant you might find not so many are actually willing to take pups.

cinderellacomplex

I don't like the idea of the injection, but that's just personal preference. People do manage to keep intact dogs and !!!!!es in the same house without mishaps though, you just have to be committed to keeping them separate, either by crating one or the other when unsupervised or by keeping them in different areas of the house. You should be aware that it can be quite stressful at times for the male and so sometimes it is preferable for him to go to a friend's on 'holiday' for the duration of the season.

I've seen it work, but it isn't what I would call 'easy'...

pinetree

Getting away from the rights and wrongs of dog breeding, years ago vets didnt like routinely giving injections to !!!!!es because of the occurance of mammary tumours, things may have changed now though.