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  • Doc_N
    Doc_N Posts: 8,547 Forumite
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    DavidA wrote: »
    Great. So it only uses the salt that it needs? I hadn't understood that point.

    Sort of, yes. The efficiency of the metering system will vary from machine to machine, and some don't have meters at all - they just regenerate every so many days, depending on how you set it.

    Mine, for example, has a meter which measures the water throughput, but it's a little more sophisticated in that it predicts future usage to some extent, based on past usage. It works pretty well, and if you happen to use a lot of water on a Monday it will take that into account when deciding whether to regenerate or not on a Sunday night.

    I'm sure things have moved on a lot since I bought it, though, 17 years ago (no servicing or repairs in all that time and still going strong) and there are people here whose knowledge is far greater, and far more up-to-date than mine.
  • DavidA
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    Having read the whole thread, I had understood the difference between a timed, metered and predictive recharging system. What I hadn't understood was that quantity of salt used will vary according to your water hardness.

    Doc, FYI the descendants of your Ecowater system now tell you when its time to add more salt.
  • Doc_N
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    DavidA wrote: »
    Having read the whole thread, I had understood the difference between a timed, metered and predictive recharging system. What I hadn't understood was that quantity of salt used will vary according to your water hardness.

    Doc, FYI the descendants of your Ecowater system now tell you when its time to add more salt.

    Sorry, David - I'd forgotten you'd taken the time and trouble to read the thread! Such a rare event..........

    Delighted to find that I'll no longer have to lift the lid once a month to check the salt level when I replace the softener, though. It's really been bugging me, that. ;)
  • DavidA
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    Haha. I generally only do things that electronic devices or my wife tell me to do.

    I think I'll probably go for a Coral. No unnecessary extras, single tank and a valve that comes recommended in this forum. I've found a local dealer; just waiting for a quote.

    Thanks again for your help.
  • joe_t
    joe_t Posts: 87 Forumite
    DavidA wrote: »
    Haha. I generally only do things that electronic devices or my wife tell me to do.

    I think I'll probably go for a Coral. No unnecessary extras, single tank and a valve that comes recommended in this forum. I've found a local dealer; just waiting for a quote.

    Thanks again for your help.

    check out this sites prices, you might be able to get one or the other to price match.
    http://www.299softeners.com/shop/index.php

    joe
  • Doc_N
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    joe_t wrote: »
    check out this sites prices, you might be able to get one or the other to price match.
    http://www.299softeners.com/shop/index.php

    joe

    Some keen prices there, Joe - do you know anything about them?
  • joe_t
    joe_t Posts: 87 Forumite
    Doc_N wrote: »
    Some keen prices there, Joe - do you know anything about them?

    there the company i used, they have been in the game for quite some time.
    i would like too hold on an opinion until they turn up tomorrow and put the bigger hoses on that i had to email them and basically ask if they had forgot, and how they deal with the salt consumption.
    that said they are very pleasant too deal with and competitive.
    i will give a more detailed opinion but after my issues get dealt with.
    there based in norwich but do travel to fit, or you buy and get your own plumber.
    joe....
  • moonrakerz
    moonrakerz Posts: 8,650 Forumite
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    DavidA wrote: »
    I'll probably go for a Coral. No unnecessary extras, single tank and a valve that comes recommended in this forum. .

    Very sensible and very MSE !
  • joe_t
    joe_t Posts: 87 Forumite
    well they turned up as promised but the hoses they bought dont fit the connectors on the softener, i dont know if they should have different fittings on the softener as well. im not sure exactly what the high pressure system kit actually means.
    as for the extra salt usage he told the wife that a factory setting is forcing a twin cycle hence double the salt.
    they are going to change the meter, which im assuming means everything barring the tank itself.
    i will phone them when im home thursday and find out for sure what there doing as im not really happy about having bits added as its been wrong from day one, ie not fit for purpose. but i will see what they say.
    any opinions on this please feel free.

    joe............
  • Hi joe t.
    A high pressure kit will comprise of larger bore pipes than the standard 1/2" flexible hoses usually used on domestic softeners.. this allows more water to pass through the softener giving the impression of higher pressure. What you are in fact doing is increasing flow rather than pressure, but the bottom line is that the water comes out of the taps quicker (as long as there is sufficient flow and pressure available off the mains pipe!).
    I wouldn't worry about the engineers changing parts on the softener.. most of the components are modular so they are better off changing just the part they need to. You will still end up with a perfectly good, new softener.
    This forum seems to have come up trumps as far as diagnosing a problem with salt consumption and giving you the information and confidence to discuss the matter with the softener company.. and hopefully get a resolution.
    Hope this helps.
    Matt.
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