water softner help in chosing and is this true

moonrakerz

The prices quoted for a lot of these machines are high. You can get a good quality Permutit softener from B & Q - the difference in price will buy a lot of salt/water. !
Don't get seduced by all the flashy "extras" on some of these machines - you will stick the softener in a cupboard and let it get on with it.

sloughflint

I found this link:
http://www.uk-water-softeners.co.uk/pages/twintechistory.htm
It would seem that the twintec can be used with any type of system which might make it more transportable when moving house or in our case when changing central heating system.
Roughly how much is the permutit moonrakerz? Also non electric?

bernlyn

I found this link:
http://www.uk-water-softeners.co.uk/...techistory.htm
It would seem that the twintec can be used with any type of system which might make it more transportable when moving house or in our case when changing central heating system.
Roughly how much is the permutit moonrakerz? Also non electric?

i phone this company aswell and they were far to expensive for me. they wanted £1300 fitted.

moonrakerz

sloughflint wrote:

Roughly how much is the permutit moonrakerz? Also non electric?

Can't remember the exact prices - about £3-400 ish, I think. They all need an electric supply.
For some strange reason they don't appear to be on the B & Q website, but they keep them in store - but only in hard water areas.

sloughflint

bernlyn wrote:

the price i was quoted was £699 inc vat and £636 for the crown also £205 for the install of either 1

I've got Kinetico coming out tomorrow to advise what we need/hard sell. Your figure will give me an idea on what is an acceptable price. £200 installation seems a lot considering we want to put it under the kitchen sink and that's where mains comes in or am I being naive?
Disappointed about Twintec price as that was compatible with either plumbing system. With Kinetico, they seem to have a machine for each type.

Thanks Moonrakerz but I'm definately homing in on non-electric.

bernlyn

it will be interesting to see what they come up with and what the installation payment is actually for as far as what they do that warrants £200. also find out from them if you do diy install will it effect the warranties or such

keep us post as to the outcome i will definitely be interested

sloughflint

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Well, had the sales pitch. If it wasn't for the fact Kinetico is well thought of, would have discounted completely.
Given a figure of £ 1290.15 inc vat plus fitting fee of £210 as it is simple installation. Would throw in filter for free and free salt. Bla Bla Bla.
Guarantee for 7 years and if they fit, pipework for one year.
Then I hit him with the price you gave in this thread obtainable via the internet.
Awaiting a phone call tomorrow to " see what he can do".
I really don't like dealing like this. Shame that this is the machine I want.

sloughflint

bernlyn wrote:

also find out from them if you do diy install will it effect the warranties or such

Still 7 year guarantee if diy.

bernlyn

thanks for the update

what company came and quoted you. it will be interesring to see if he lowers his price. to be honest i will surprised if you hear from him.

moonrakerz

sloughflint wrote:

Given a figure of £ 1290.15 inc vat plus fitting fee of £210 as it is simple installation. Would throw in filter for free and free salt. Bla Bla Bla.
Guarantee for 7 years and if they fit, pipework for one year.

Selling water softeners seems to be taking over from double glazing as a good way to rip off the public.

These prices are ridiculous ! Many of these softeners have added "extras" which are completely unnecessary and are there purely to add profit.

As I have said before, go to somewhere like B & Q, buy a basic softener from there. They do need a power supply but for some of the prices quoted in this thread you could almost get the house re-wired for that money!