HMRC 'does not accept' that I work more than 40s hrs per week? What can I do?

mildred1978

thistledome wrote: »

Any business that is ALWAYS looking for staff is, in my experience, a bad place to work. Perhaps your friend is the one in need of re-training if he or she can't keep staff.;)

Not true in a transient town like Brighton. Restaurant and bar jobs tend to be a stop gap to pay the rent until something better (in London usually) comes up

vintagebrighton

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

I don't see any point massaging the employment figures by pretending that people are running a business when basically they have a little sideline going and actually live on tax credits, HB, etc.

Then you're not really clued up on how the economy and modern politics works! We'd be further and deeper in doo doo as a nation economically if the official unemployment figures were as high as the real ones! (Actually I suspect you are but perhaps we have different ideological viewpoints )

tomjonesrules

vintagebrighton wrote: »

Then you're not really clued up on how the economy and modern politics works! We'd be further and deeper in doo doo as a nation economically if the official unemployment figures were as high as the real ones! (Actually I suspect you are but perhaps we have different ideological viewpoints )

Just to humour you, please elaborate on this point!

tomjonesrules

mildred1978 wrote: »

Not true in a transient town like Brighton. Restaurant and bar jobs tend to be a stop gap to pay the rent until something better (in London usually) comes up

This is true, and is supported by the OP's words (before they were deleted!) - high student population, affluent area/ high cost of living - no one sees restaurant/ bar jobs as a long term option.

Oldernotwiser

vintagebrighton wrote: »

Then you're not really clued up on how the economy and modern politics works! We'd be further and deeper in doo doo as a nation economically if the official unemployment figures were as high as the real ones! (Actually I suspect you are but perhaps we have different ideological viewpoints )

Do you actually have an ideological viewpoint?

vintagebrighton

tomjonesrules wrote: »

Just to humour you, please elaborate on this point!

I prefer not to be humoured thanks!

vintagebrighton

Oldernotwiser wrote: »

Do you actually have an ideological viewpoint?

Yes, I believe so

marie-20

Personally I am in my 1st year of trading as SE and I will most likely finish at a profit of around £1k - trading since July with an income of £12,500 but I have a low profit margin and I have a lot of stock in the house meaning that I've currently spent around £14,000 inc fuel, postage, etc.

I work a lot of hours and even when I'm not I'm constantly checking my phone for emails etc like a lot of SE people.

Next year I expect to be working over 30 hours a week but my 'profit'/books may only be around £5k and at £5K at the NMW I should only be working 16 hours ish p/w therefore I am expecting Tax Credits to only allow me to claim that I work 16 hours p/w which is a tad unfair however I can kind of understand why they are doing this - I would expect that most SE would be earning a 'decent' wage after say 5 years and 30 hours @ NMW is only £9500, of course there will be good and bad years esspecially at the moment but if year after year the SE person is still earning such a low income maybe it's time that they look for a P/T job to supplement their income?

I say this as my brother-in-law was claiming JSA for YEARS but after being forced to go to interviews and the like he decided to set up on his own as a decorator. He only does the occasional job for 'mates' maybe paints a couple of rooms a month so 2 days a month at the most and declares an income of around £1000 per year and is better off now than he was before (he's got a partner and 3 kids - she doesn't work either!) and he will continue to carry on like this until something is done about it. Now I personally find this VERY unfair for the main part of SE people that are genuine and are having a hard time setting up.


P.S: I'm impartial in this discussion as I can see both sides of the 'arguement' however I agree that you need to get as much 'proof' as possible over to HMRC to show that you have been working the hours that you stated

melly1980

welcome to the usual tory divide and conquor strategy. Treat everyone with broad brush strokes and use a sledgehammer to crack a walnut.

Just like they have to remove almost everyone from disability just to get at the frauds they now have to persecute small business owners just to get at the few p1$$ takers.

HappyMJ

marie-20 wrote: »

Personally I am in my 1st year of trading as SE and I will most likely finish at a profit of around £1k - trading since July with an income of £12,500 but I have a low profit margin and I have a lot of stock in the house meaning that I've currently spent around £14,000 inc fuel, postage, etc.

I work a lot of hours and even when I'm not I'm constantly checking my phone for emails etc like a lot of SE people.

Next year I expect to be working over 30 hours a week but my 'profit'/books may only be around £5k and at £5K at the NMW I should only be working 16 hours ish p/w therefore I am expecting Tax Credits to only allow me to claim that I work 16 hours p/w which is a tad unfair however I can kind of understand why they are doing this - I would expect that most SE would be earning a 'decent' wage after say 5 years and 30 hours @ NMW is only £9500, of course there will be good and bad years esspecially at the moment but if year after year the SE person is still earning such a low income maybe it's time that they look for a P/T job to supplement their income?

I say this as my brother-in-law was claiming JSA for YEARS but after being forced to go to interviews and the like he decided to set up on his own as a decorator. He only does the occasional job for 'mates' maybe paints a couple of rooms a month so 2 days a month at the most and declares an income of around £1000 per year and is better off now than he was before (he's got a partner and 3 kids - she doesn't work either!) and he will continue to carry on like this until something is done about it. Now I personally find this VERY unfair for the main part of SE people that are genuine and are having a hard time setting up.


P.S: I'm impartial in this discussion as I can see both sides of the 'arguement' however I agree that you need to get as much 'proof' as possible over to HMRC to show that you have been working the hours that you stated

Next year? For existing tax credit and housing benefit claims it is 6 years away from today until that rule takes affect.