Hosting own website

moonpenny

Thank You all for your replies but I'm afraid you are "blinding me with science" :eek::eek::eek:

I am not the least bit technical, so I think it best I don't go down the route of self hosting after all. Thanks anyway

verystupidwithmoney

moonpenny wrote: »

Thank You all for your replies but I'm afraid you are "blinding me with science" :eek::eek::eek:

I am not the least bit technical, so I think it best I don't go down the route of self hosting after all. Thanks anyway

If you PM me I'll host you for free if the traffic is small and you're not calculating PI .

The machines are hosted in the UK.

Notmyrealname

Judging by his comments on servers and server operating systems, I don't think I'd want anything of any importance hosted by him. He is spouting the same rubbish as a lot of young uns who have a couple of computers at home who run "webhosting" on their consumer grade broadband like some sort of status symbol.

On the whole I tend to find I've been in IT longer than they've been alive.

victor2

verystupidwithmoney wrote: »

There is no such thing as a server. A computer is a computer whether supplying content or retrieving it. These so called servers do exactly what your home computer does.

There is also no such thing as a taxi. A car is a car whether carrying passengers or not. These so called taxis do exactly what your car at home does.

chunter

moonpenny wrote: »

Thank You all for your replies but I'm afraid you are "blinding me with science" :eek::eek::eek:

I am not the least bit technical, so I think it best I don't go down the route of self hosting after all. Thanks anyway

Good decision. Thought about the self hosting, but i know nothing of the security needed and i think i'd rather pay somebody to worry about it.

esuhl

verystupidwithmoney wrote: »

There is no such thing as a server. A computer is a computer whether supplying content or retrieving it.

Of course there are such things as servers, just as there are clients.

What you're saying is like suggesting that, "There is no such thing as a speaker. A person is a person whether they are speaking or listening."

It's just that the state of being a server/speaker is not an inherent property of a device. A device can be a server one minute and a client the next, just like a person can be a speaker at one moment and a listener at another.

verystupidwithmoney

Notmyrealname wrote: »

Judging by his comments on servers and server operating systems, I don't think I'd want anything of any importance hosted by him. He is spouting the same rubbish as a lot of young uns who have a couple of computers at home who run "webhosting" on their consumer grade broadband like some sort of status symbol.

On the whole I tend to find I've been in IT longer than they've been alive.

You know you're wrong and so insult instead. Prove me wrong technically. Go on...

And no I don't run any web hosting. You should stay out of Computing. You love buzz words but fundamentally don't understand the underlying nature.

Tell me why I am wrong. Do you work in IT support by an chance?

The fact you use IT is a buzz word in itself

verystupidwithmoney

Notmyrealname wrote: »

Judging by his comments on servers and server operating systems, I don't think I'd want anything of any importance hosted by him. He is spouting the same rubbish as a lot of young uns who have a couple of computers at home who run "webhosting" on their consumer grade broadband like some sort of status symbol.

On the whole I tend to find I've been in IT longer than they've been alive.

To prove even further you don't understand check this link.

http://news.netcraft.com/archives/2011/01/05/most-reliable-hosting-company-sites-in-december-2010.html

You see FreeBSD? Now check freebsd.org.

I am using freebsd to write this post on my little slow thinkpad.

Do FreeBSD offer a server installation? No. Its the same damn code for the server and desktop because there is no damn difference except in the resources of the hardware.

Now tell me I'm wrong and you're right...

There is NO such thing as a server operating system. Jesus oh lord.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FreeBSD#Derivatives

Tell me I am wrong. To quote:

All these distributions have no or only minor changes when compared with the original FreeBSD base system.

Taa daa. Before you insult never assume your years of experience that you know anything.

S0litaire

Can you guys put the measuring tape away and zip up your trousers! ^_~

Technically you are both correct!

Specialist hardware and software are used for Servers that require over 99.99999% uptime. (Motherboards that can handle 64Gb - 256Gb of Ram as well as multiple Hot Swappable Raid'ed Drives, CPU's and Multiple Redundant PSU's are not cheap!!) Servers tend to rely on the use of the system RAM rather than Disk storage. So having as much RAM packed onto a Motherboard reduces power requirements and time taken to handle requests.

You CAN install server software (eg: FTP Server, Newsgroup Server, Mail Server Web Server or SQL Server) on your desktop but don't expect good performance if you are using it as a Desktop as well.

People do use their desktops as servers but usually only for development and the have a separate machine called a "Production" server that is used for the actual server for client machines to connect to.

verystupidwithmoney

S0litaire wrote: »

Can you guys put the measuring tape away and zip up your trousers! ^_~

Technically you are both correct!

Specialist hardware and software are used for Servers that require over 99.99999% uptime. (Motherboards that can handle 64Gb - 256Gb of Ram as well as multiple Hot Swappable Raid'ed Drives, CPU's and Multiple Redundant PSU's are not cheap!!) Servers tend to rely on the use of the system RAM rather than Disk storage. So having as much RAM packed onto a Motherboard reduces power requirements and time taken to handle requests.

You CAN install server software (eg: FTP Server, News group Server, Mail Server Web Server or SQL Server) on your desktop but don't expect good performance if you are using it as a Desktop as well.

People do use their desktops as servers but usually only for development and the have a separate machine called a "Production" server that is used for the actual server for client machines to connect to.

You are right. But the software isnt specialised I promise . If you look at Linux and BSD the software can be optimized through system controls, aka sysctl, which can optmize the operating system for a busy environment.

For example. On a server dealing with plenty of traffic each packet of data will cause an interrupt which tells the OS there is data waiting to be processed. Now, doing this for every packet received can be costly. With sysctls you can configure the stack to only deal with an interupt once X packets have been received. This improves performance as doing things in bulk is generally quicker. BUT the software is still the same software . It is the same code just optmized with little runtime flags which the OS takes into account.

Thanks