MSE News: Legal battle launched over solar subsidy cuts

don0301

not if you actually read (and understand) what he said

Duh

don0301

I'll help you

ed110220 wrote: »

Rather misleading as a nuclear powerplant cannot be started and stopped at will - it produces at minimum demand at say 4am just as it does at maximum demand say 7pm.

Therefore, nuclear is best suited to providing baseload capacity, ie enough for minimum demand, on top of which plants that can be fired up on demand will be needed to meet the extra demand above the baseload anyway.

Given that the period of minimum demand is always in darkness (late night-early morning before dawn) solar is not going to contribute when extra electricity is not needed and nuclear can fullfill the task. It will be substituting for rapid-response gas fired plants which will need to be fired up less, thereby saving gas and carbon emissions.

HalloweenJack

awesome so you understand my comment - and there i was thinking everyone from essex was as dumb as towie....

don0301

I'm not from Essex, I live here

nice playground punt tho....

jamesingram

Any one know the figures for £/kW delivered for nuclear in its first 22 months of subsides back in the day , this will allow us to compare Grahams figures with solar PV in a more realistic manner.

grahamc2003

The court of appeal has reserved judgement on decc's application for leave to appeal. The decision will now be made in a couple of weeks time.

Martyn1981

jamesingram wrote: »

Any one know the figures for £/kW delivered for nuclear in its first 22 months of subsides back in the day , this will allow us to compare Grahams figures with solar PV in a more realistic manner.

James, been trying, but finding anything on nuclear costs is proving far more difficult than I imagined. Located this recently;

http://www.parliament.uk/documents/post/postpn208.pdf

But it's 10 years old, and has 4, yes 4 different guesses at unit cost

1.6p to 2.5p
2.1p
2.5p
3.9p to 4.5p

Finding all or any specifics on nuclear (other than Wikipedia) is proving somewhat taxing (pun intended!).

I'm not actually against nuclear, I really can't see how we can meet our CO2 obligations without them, so better the devil you know, I suppose. But on cost and health issues, I'd prefer to see renewables, but then we're back to storage. Maybe rather than talking about it, we could all chip in for a rowing boat and some extension cables and make a start on the European Super-Grid ourselves, anyone game!

Mart.

Blossom2528

Martyn1981 wrote: »

Always difficult to guesstimate ahead, but I’ll take a punt, and invite others to have a go, as it’s quite a fun mental exercise / learning experience.

Grid parity, depends on definition, so I’ll try a few.

Unit cost: Looking at Sizewell B, then that has a suggested unit cost of 6p/kWh (excluding future finance costs).

Referring to my post #168, I’d guess that a suitable domestic install, after adding £2,000 for future inverters, could hit approx 5.5p around 2016.

Mart.

Interesting numbers. Need to let PV grow up a bit then and see. Thanks for 'having a punt'.

The_Green_Hornet

Chris Huhne has clarified the situation on the reduced solar PV feed-in tariff in case the government loses it's appeal.

We are therefore laying before Parliament today some draft licence modifications which, subject to the Parliamentary process set out in the Energy Act 2008, makes provision for a reduced tariff rate (from 1 April 2012 onwards) for new PV installations with an eligibility date on or after 3 March 2012.

If the Court finds in favour of the Government’s appeal, we intend to stand by all our consultation proposals, including an earlier (December) reference date, subject to the Parliamentary procedure and consideration of consultation responses. It is very important that we reserve this as an option because these 43p payments will take a disproportionate share of the budget available for small-scale low-carbon technologies. We want instead to maximise the number of installations that are possible within the available budget rather than use available subsidy to pay a higher tariff to a smaller number of installations.

http://www.decc.gov.uk/en/content/cms/news/WMSCH_FITs/

pcrosland

see here for an update:

http://www.northernalliance.co.uk/government-solar-fit-cuts-update/