Osborne loses his nerve in the face of Union solidarity

discoass

tartanterra wrote: »

Speaking to me again? I'm honoured.

For the record, when I joined the abatement of pay was 13%. By the time I left, the AFPRB had reduced it to down to 7% due to the fact that the "buying power" of the pension had decreased, and to bring us more in line with what other public servants were contributing.

And your pay changed how much to compensate for this change?

ps heres a quote from hmforces website

The armed forces pension scheme is one of the benefits of the Armed Forces as you do not make any direct contributions towards it and your benefits are calculated from your final pensionable pay.

tartanterra

discoass wrote: »

And your pay changed how much to compensate for this change?

Are you serious? I've just explained.

My pay was abated by 13%. Over a period of years that abatement was reduced to 7%.

Clearly this increased my take home pay in real terms.

If you reduced your pension contributions, then your take home pay would increase.

Surely you understand this?

Road_Hog

discoass wrote: »

what happens when these public sector jobs ie teachers/nurses/police become unatrractive because theres no extra incentive to do them,


we`ll just ship them in from abroad and have to pay double just to fill the posts ,that`ll work :P

Maybe you'll get replaced by Polish/East European (cheaper) workers, the same as is happening in the private sector.

As to the second part of your post, not pay double, pay half is more accurate.

Judging by your grammar, spelling, punctuation and capitalisation, you are probably a teacher.

discoass

tartanterra wrote: »

Are you serious? I've just explained.

My pay was abated by 13%. Over a period of years that abatement was reduced to 7%.

Clearly this increased my take home pay in real terms.

If you reduced your pension contributions, then your take home pay would increase.

Surely you understand this?

The armed forces pension scheme is one of the benefits of the Armed Forces as you do not make any direct contributions towards it and your benefits are calculated from your final pensionable pay.

discoass

Road_Hog wrote: »

Maybe you'll get replaced by Polish/East European (cheaper) workers, the same as is happening in the private sector.

As to the second part of your post, not pay double, pay half is more accurate.

Judging by your grammar, spelling, punctuation and capitalisation, you are probably a teacher.

Whats this obsession with spelling and grammar its a frickin forum ,its done for speed . get over yourself

tartanterra

discoass wrote: »

And your pay changed how much to compensate for this change?

ps heres a quote from hmforces website

The armed forces pension scheme is one of the benefits of the Armed Forces as "you do not make any direct contributions" towards it and your benefits are calculated from your final pensionable pay.

I despair.
It doesn't say " you do not make ANY contributions" does it?

That's because there is an abatement of pay, isn't there?

Keeping up?
What a shame, you've just spent ages looking for that as well.

discoass

tartanterra wrote: »

I despair.
It doesn't say " you do not make ANY contributions" does it?

That's because there is an abatement of pay, isn't there?

Keeping up?
What a shame, you've just spent ages looking for that as well.

I know exactly what u are on about which is why I questioned you.
What year did your pay go up because of it.
Because mine didnt

ruggedtoast

Well this thread's turned out nice.

Jimmy_31

discoass wrote: »

you need a better job

As does everybody else who is self employed in the building game around here.

The firms around here no longer take on cards in any more.

I think ill scrap the supermarket job idea when i get a house and just stick to doing private work, as the recent tax breaks that have been announced for businesses are quite tempting:).

Sadly im cis at the moment so 20% tax is deducted from my wages automatically.

Road_Hog

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Well why don't you go and form a union then and take some direct action? Rather than just moaning endlessly on message boards.

I don't want to join a union (they're useless) and I don't want direct action and nor am I moaning. I'm pointing out the differences to you, between public and private sector.

Can I remind you which whinger started this thread?

ruggedtoast wrote: »

You seem to think because life is unfair for you it has to be for everyone.

Nope, I'm just fed up of other people who expect others to pay for their comfy retirement.

ruggedtoast wrote: »

You aren't going to get anything handed to you, you need to get off your bum and fight for it.

I certainly don't want or expect to have anything handed to me on a plate, whereas you do and expect me to pay for your gold plated pension.

ruggedtoast wrote: »

Public sector workers support their unions because they want something for nothing.

I've fixed your quote for you.

ruggedtoast wrote: »

I am sorry but I have limited sympathy for sausage roll toasting numpties, working the lines, spending all their disposable on prune juice and then complaining they don't have a good package.

As for that last comment, I think you've lost it.