Are work xmas parties (and bonus) dead?

dseventy

TrickyWicky wrote: »

Where do I apply????

LOL!

If you are good at what you do, and in my field of need, I will find you!

D70

mazza1970

At Christmas, my company always do something for the staff and families free of charge, Christmas parties, trips to the panto etc. Also, the staff get a party all paid for by the company, and £100 shopping vouchers each. Then in January, if you have not been off sick for the previous year Jan - Dec, you get a good attendance bonus.

Mischa8

LadyMissA wrote: »

No, never had a party, xmas card or bonus in any job I have had.

You are joking aren't you?!

The more I read your posts I either think you're a troll or a really bad employee.

LadyMissA

Mischa8 wrote: »

You are joking aren't you?!

The more I read your posts I either think you're a troll or a really bad employee.

Not a joke I am afraid, but a fact - sorry.

Not a troll and no not a bad employee either as NO ONE was getting a party, card or bonus either. Why would a company who want to keep all the profit do any of those things for staff?

Mischa8

LadyMissA wrote: »

Not a joke I am afraid, but a fact - sorry.

Not a troll and no not a bad employee either as NO ONE was getting a party, card or bonus either. Why would a company who want to keep all the profit do any of those things for staff?

Ok - you mentioned *jobs* not *job*.

In all my years of working (since 17, now 41) sometimes we got cards, sometimes cash bonus and certainly a party. In fact - most companies organise them simply as thank you's to staff for their hard work over the year.

The Jewish accountants (yes, Jewish owned firm) weren't great with bonuses but we did get a party and really, they celebrate Channukah and not Christmas but we had a Christmas tree in reception so it was a bit understated.

One year, years ago working as long term purchasing secretary for a year - I got card (don't think bonus), but as we *bought* metals etc the suppliers sent gifts - bottles of whisky, smoked salmon etc - which the 3 members of staff (me included) shared out between us, plus a party.

One architects firm where I worked for 6 years, often we got monetary bonus but if not, we got case of wine, plus the office restaurant party.

This year (work in a small firm) - got £200 cash bonus and huge Body Shop gift pack plus restaurant meal out paid for - didn't expect the cash bonus but my boss did the Body Shop gift last year and huge Easter egg for me and colleague.

I sort of see it as a reflection sometimes on the employee but also on the employer, not saying I wouldn't work for an employer who wasn't generous but I do find it very hard to believe Lady Miss A that in your previous roles not one has done the card, bonus or office party/meal.

arbroath_lass

Mischa8 wrote: »

I sort of see it as a reflection sometimes on the employee but also on the employer, not saying I wouldn't work for an employer who wasn't generous but I do find it very hard to believe Lady Miss A that in your previous roles not one has done the card, bonus or office party/meal.

Not sure why you'd find it hard to believe it's certainly my experience too. As I said previously I've worked for 25 years with various employers private and public. I don't know anyone who has had Christmas parties since the Seventies.

I don't think anyone can say "most employers" as you don't know that.

BTW I do work hard (same as most employees) and I am rewarded for that at the end of every month. No need for Christmas parties or thank yous.

LadyMissA

Mischa8 wrote: »

I sort of see it as a reflection sometimes on the employee but also on the employer, not saying I wouldn't work for an employer who wasn't generous but I do find it very hard to believe Lady Miss A that in your previous roles not one has done the card, bonus or office party/meal.

I have always worked for wine bar/restaurant co's in accounts and I can tell you (but you wont believe it) that none of them have sent a card to staff, had a party or ever paid any bonus. It's not the staff at all but the company.

They would never take the staff out for a meal at the companies busiest times so we never had anything like that as it's such a busy time Christmas and they are only concerned with money in the tills.

There was however one woman who retired at my old place who had been there 25 years and she got £70 behind the bar as a gift when she left.

LadyMissA

arbroath_lass wrote: »

Not sure why you'd find it hard to believe it's certainly my experience too. As I said previously I've worked for 25 years with various employers private and public. I don't know anyone who has had Christmas parties since the Seventies.

I don't think anyone can say "most employers" as you don't know that.

BTW I do work hard (same as most employees) and I am rewarded for that at the end of every month. No need for Christmas parties or thank yous.

Oh no, not you too? Are you sure it's not a reflection on you as a worker? I thought it was me making that up about no bonus, no card and party etc

persa

Mischa8 wrote: »

I sort of see it as a reflection sometimes on the employee but also on the employer, not saying I wouldn't work for an employer who wasn't generous but I do find it very hard to believe Lady Miss A that in your previous roles not one has done the card, bonus or office party/meal.

That's really unfair.

Most employers recognise that not giving their employees something extra at Christmas (whether that be a nice big cash bonus or just one drink in the pub) leads to a high level of staff turnover which is disruptive (need to recruit new staff, train them up, etc).

However, there are some awful employers who haven't made the connection between happy workers and net profits. By all means, criticise someone for having a poor attitude to work, or for inadequate performance, but I think it's bad form to criticise someone for having a crap employer.

LadyMissA

persa wrote: »

That's really unfair.

Most employers recognise that not giving their employees something extra at Christmas (whether that be a nice big cash bonus or just one drink in the pub) leads to a high level of staff turnover which is disruptive (need to recruit new staff, train them up, etc).

However, there are some awful employers who haven't made the connection between happy workers and net profits. By all means, criticise someone for having a poor attitude to work, or for inadequate performance, but I think it's bad form to criticise someone for having a crap employer.

Yeah some recognise rewarding staff to stop a high staff turnover and some other (my last) would not care. I am not a jop hopper so I try my hardest to ride things out and never leave a job. In my time at my last place in a team of 6 I had worked with 21 different people and that's not including the 6 that were there when I left so in full total 26 different people (not counting me) in 5 positions in 5 years!

All left as they never realised they wouldn't get what they got in previous companies. The longest person stayed 2 years the shortest 7 months!

I will give them this though after years of this happening the company did agree to give more holiday to staff who stayed so if you stay 2 years or more your 20 days holiday went up 2 days.