Morrisons to open 25 stores and create 7000 jobs

dunstonh

ILW wrote: »

Why do people blame supermarkets for killing off local shops? It is the customers who stop using the local shops that are to blame. To my knowledge, nobody is forced to use Tesco instead of the retailers on the high street.

Fair comment and one that cannot be argued.

The consumer generally gets what they want and that includes the consequences. Personally, I dont like the consequences

Cleaver

Road_Hog wrote: »

as Sir Richard Branson says, you can have all the money in the world but you can only eat one lunch and one dinner."

Sir Richard has obviously never witnessed the Cleaver 'have dinner, go out and drink beer, then have another dinner' special.

Cleaver

ILW wrote: »

Why do people blame supermarkets for killing off local shops? It is the customers who stop using the local shops that are to blame.

This is far too simplistic an argument. It's a bit like saying, "why do people blame the government for high house prices? People will pay whatever they want for a house, that drives the price." Whilst this is true to a point, there's plenty of things the government could have done (and could do now) to alter the course of the housing market. And plenty of other institutions and organisations that make up our society could have helped too.

The same could be said of Supermarkets. I don't really 'blame' them per say, I blame the fact that they are allowed to operate in an environment that is completely stacked in their favour as opposed to the smaller shops.

I really, really try to shop at smaller places but it's becoming really hard to do so because of lack of choice. There is no simple reason for this and I certainly don't just 'blame' supermarkets, we've just got to a point where the public seems to have become happy with complete mediocrity, lack of choice and low-quality food in exchange for low prices and the option to park for free. More could, and should, have been done to stop our society heading in this direction.

kabayiri

dunstonh wrote: »

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The consumer generally gets what they want and that includes the consequences. Personally, I dont like the consequences

First uttered in its original form by Paul Weller from the Jam I believe

Going underground (parking)

How prophetic.

grizzly1911

dunstonh wrote: »

Wish Waitrose open more shops. Nearest one is an 80 mile round trip. Its a long drive for the weekly shop.

Our nearest town is is going downhill so fast that ASDA is becoming the quality option for shopping in that town[/QUOTE

£13 to visit the most expensive supermarket for a "weekly" shop. Not to mention an extra 2 hours of your life down the pan.

Thanks for reminding me why I don't employ an IFA.

Have one on the doorstep, used for the stuff you can't get in Aldi.

dunstonh

£13 to visit the most expensive supermarket for a "weekly" shop. Not to mention an extra 2 hours of your life down the pan.

Its a nice drive and we get a very nice lunch in the pub nearby. Plus its the main shopping city in the county so dont have a lot of choice. £13 isnt much really when you put it like that.

I suppose you wouldnt approve of the 25 mile round trip we do in the other direction to our preferred off licence either.

Thanks for reminding me why I don't employ an IFA.

Cant see where you shop should have any consideration on that. Everyone can decide to spend the money they earn the way they wish. I appreciate quality

Have one on the doorstep, used for the stuff you can't get in Aldi.

Went in an Aldi once to see what it was like and disliked it. Wouldnt waste my time there again.

purch

Why do people blame supermarkets for killing off local shops? It is the customers who stop using the local shops that are to blame. To my knowledge, nobody is forced to use Tesco instead of the retailers on the high street.

I have mentioned this before, but in Minehead a local butcher shut his high street shop, and took a large unit right next to the recently expanded Tesco, moved into selling local fruit and veg alongside meat and is still doing a roaring trade 4 years on.

http://www.stuartlowen.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=18&Itemid=79

If you can't beat them....

bendix

dunstonh wrote: »

A nation of shopkeepers.....

Not any more. The supermarkets killed them off. Now its a nation of part time shelf fillers and cashiers working in little more than a warehouse.

And invariably earning little more than minimum wage on a part-time basis.

I can't see this helping house prices across the nation very much.

Maz

Excerpt from an article by George Monbiot in 1998, presumably this would apply to any supermarket not just Tesco?

'For Tesco’s business, in common with that of the other superstores, is the business not of generation, but of displacement. It doesn’t create jobs, it destroys them. A report published by the National Retail Planning Forum shows that the opening of a superstore costs, on average, a net 276 local jobs, as independent grocers, village shops, newsagents, milk rounds and pharmacists are closed down in droves.'

Article here if you're interested -http://www.monbiot.com/1998/09/24/a-nation-of-suckers/

bendix

And yet people want supermarkets. End of discussion.

It seems that everyone wants supermarkets themselves, but don't want others to have the convenience, choice and cost savings that they enjoy.

NIBMYISM at its finest.