Parent and child space - disabled driver

split_second

FatVonD wrote: »

Ha! have you ever been shopping with a child in tow, I leave mine behind as the bill increases proportionate to the number of kids we have with us :rotfl:

my in laws learned long ago to leave the kids at home and one parent go shopping for the sake of sanity and the bill :rotfl:

adouglasmhor

pinkladyof66 wrote: »

Would have been hard for me to walk 7 miles on a country lane with only two lanes of traffic one going either way and no path. Surely would have been bl00dy dangerous. Also it was tipping with rain. Would have probably taken me near on 1 day to do it, if i had got there in one piece.

I am pretty sure Peace and Freedom was mocking the one she replied to.

peaceandfreedom

adouglasmhor wrote: »

I am pretty sure Peace and Freedom was mocking the one she replied to.

I was indeed. Looks like my sarcasm skills needs a bit of fine-tuning.

flutterby_lil

peachyprice wrote: »

If they are private car parks not run by the council the tickets are unenforceable, you didn't need to pay it. So yes, anyone can park anywhere in a supermarket, mall etc.

Was run by NCP - didn't pay it though as I was pregnant so had a child with me and was going inside to pick my son up so i won the appeal.

flutterby_lil

pinkladyof66 wrote: »

Would have been hard for me to walk 7 miles on a country lane with only two lanes of traffic one going either way and no path. Surely would have been bl00dy dangerous. Also it was tipping with rain. Would have probably taken me near on 1 day to do it, if i had got there in one piece.

24 hours to walk 7 miles? wow, thought i was slow and I have an excuse of being pregnant. Rain makes me walk faster though!!

elvis86

londonsurrey wrote: »

There was a brilliant incident at a Kent Tesco. I was waiting for a friend. Young man parked up in a disabled space, and ran in.

The car was clamped. Young man came out, and complained.
The reason for the clamp was politely explained to him. He said he had a blue badge.
He was getting very agitated. The Tesco rep remained polite and impassive.

It was established that the blue badge was not his. He said it was his mother's.
At that point, he was politely told that not only could they not release the clamp without the fine being paid, they couldn't release it to him as he wasn't the registered owner. LOL.
Karma was working that day.

Several people have (helpfully, IMO) stressed that you are not legally obliged to pay a fine for parking on a supermarket carpark. Therefore I'm interested to get these people's view on the legal situation here? Did Tesco act illegally by clamping the guy's car? What could one do in such a situation?

I ask not because I agree with an able-bodied person using a space provided for disabled people, but because I think that companies like Tesco should have to adhere to the law the same as anyone else.

If the law is wrong and needs changing, fair enough. But in the meantime it's not for Tesco to decide that they're going to start illegally clamping people's cars.

Incidentally, I have been known to park in a P&C space when there are several available right near the supermarket doors and it's p!55ing down with rain. I'm not going to apologise for that.;)

halibut2209

split_second wrote: »

p and c spaces are officially a marketing ploy, apparently parents spend more in the supermarket.

i personally dont get that, i thought parents were all meant to be skint?

They ARE skint. This is because they spend all their money in the supermarket.

adouglasmhor

I have parked in a P & C space at a Tesco at 1am, not many kids around at that time and it was pïshing down.

londonsurrey

elvis86 wrote: »

Several people have (helpfully, IMO) stressed that you are not legally obliged to pay a fine for parking on a supermarket carpark. Therefore I'm interested to get these people's view on the legal situation here? Did Tesco act illegally by clamping the guy's car? What could one do in such a situation?

I ask not because I agree with an able-bodied person using a space provided for disabled people, but because I think that companies like Tesco should have to adhere to the law the same as anyone else.

If the law is wrong and needs changing, fair enough. But in the meantime it's not for Tesco to decide that they're going to start illegally clamping people's cars.

Incidentally, I have been known to park in a P&C space when there are several available right near the supermarket doors and it's p!55ing down with rain. I'm not going to apologise for that.;)

There was nothing in the outcome that I wanted to change, do I didn't intervene to inquire.

The general consensus seems to be that the country needs more jobs and revenue. I'd vote for raising some of it via fines for people parking in blue badge spaces without a badge and litter louts.

My borough employs 55 full time gardening staff. They spend a good portion of it picking litter, not gardening. If you consider the employer cost (not their salaries) of £25k-£35k per gardener per annum (multiplied by 55!) , just think how much we waste picking up after morons who literally can't pick up after themselves.

Similarly with the blue badge fines, it could go towards either a mobility scheme or lowering road tax.

keelykat

heretolearn wrote: »

I really don't care about parent and child spaces, if I want one, I park in it - if there's no other suitable spaces, not deliberately just to be awkward. But I don't feel bad about taking one up, honestly, it's not brain surgery to get a kid in and out of a car for goodness sake. Generally speaking, able bodied parents and kids who moan should try thinking about the parents who have to genuinely struggle to manage everything there and back on the bus, or walk a couple of miles, or have disabled children, and get a bit of perspective on the matter. If you have a car and there's nothing wrong with any of you, you have an easy time shopping, full stop. Everyone managed before these spaces appeared a few years ago. I agree it's easier with a bit more room but it's not really essential, in the way that extra space is often essential for those with disabilities.

I would never park in a disabled space by the way.

OP, why don't you get a blue badge for your child if he can't walk? Seems pretty obvious to me.

It isn't easy to get a baby car seat in and out of a car-when you can only open your door slightly, also to get a young toddler safely strapped into a car seat you need to lean over and so need to open the door wide enough to get in to do this.

However-i get annoyed when people with much older children use the parent spaces ie a 10 year old can easily get in and strap themselves in with no or little help so don't need the wider space.

Stephb1986 wrote: »

So because I've decided not to have children yet I shouldnt get to park in these spaces if I want to?? What makes parents and children better than me?? Shouldn't these spaces be called guardian and child spaces, what happens if a grandparent or aunt/uncle are minding kids shouldn't they be able to park in these spaces too??

At the end of the day we're all spending money in the supermarket whether you have kids or not. Shouldn't the supermarket just make all parking spaces the same size rather than us bit ching about disable and parent and child parking it is ridiculous.

The parents spaces are for anyone looking after young children-so yes grandparents and carers included. And yes maybe the title should be changed? My dad has used them when he has taken my toddler out.

They'll never make all spaces bigger-as then that would equal less spaces overall so less people could park and so less people going into the supermarket. They cram as much in as possible it seems.