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Public Sector Strike(s)
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OptionARMAGEDDON wrote: »F* ck 'em. I suspect no one will notive if they are on strike anyhow. Simple solution for border control would be to turn away every asylum seeker trying to get in whilst the public sector is on strike.
So who is going to turn them away?"If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
grizzly1911 wrote: »So who is going to turn them away?
Erm, the armed forces? Didnt you hear, the military are taking over border control?0 -
£4.5B bonus pot is good news, means £1.8B in income tax, and means it's more likely the bailouts won't cost us anything.
Profits from public sector replacement is also good news. Will go to investors. Pension funds.
There's a classic PR trick done where someone shows a hospital porter on £12K a year and then puts in the entire cost of the bank bonus system (which is a form of deferred salary based on performance, would be a GREAT idea in the public sector) next to it to show how the evil bankers rape the country. So stand up the salary and bonus of a successful investment banker who is generating large profits for pension funds against the cost of the NHS, and you'll see it's not that much. Put the entire income tax and NI bill for UK based banks together and you'll see an enormous net benefit. This banker bashing for political reasons is insane.0 -
Hopefully the whole country will unite in revulsion at this assault on our public services and stand behind our state workers against this vile tory administration.0
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ruggedtoast wrote: »Hopefully the whole country will unite in revulsion at this assault on our public services and stand behind our state workers against this vile tory administration.
Not a chance! Enjoy striking sans pay! In fact do more of it and save me a fortune in tax! I hope its really cold, and p!ssing it down on the lot of you.0 -
So stand up the salary and bonus of a successful investment banker who is generating large profits for pension funds
Who is that then? I can only see the effect on my funds from bank shares over the past few years, it is not pretty
'Just think for a moment what a prospect that is. A single market without barriers visible or invisible giving you direct and unhindered access to the purchasing power of over 300 million of the worlds wealthiest and most prosperous people' Margaret Thatcher0 -
Erm, the public sector already uses private services, and why? Because they're more efficient. The NHS uses mostly private suppliers for example.
Some services may be more efficient many aren't and few save any money to the tax payer. Government inefficiency + private sector profit
It would actually be a great thing for the private sector to run most services, because it would cost less and the profits would go to build wealth and be taxable.
It wouldn't cost less, PFI springs to mind. Profits would undoubtedly be made, fair tax wouldn't be paid and in many cases these funds would be sucked out of the country.
IME in most cases outsourcing will provide some benefits for plain vanilla services but if you expect any change or variation that will come with penal rates.
Any savings will not be passed back to the taxpayer, you will just pay tax and your insurance fees (BUPA) or PAYG if you can, passport office, DVLA, planning fees for instance.
The public sector does need reform but it is the top of the tree that needs cutting not the roots.
The big problems are lack of exports to bring revenue in, immigration (leading to greater unemployment/benefits payments), overseas aid, unecessary wars and allowing rampant tax "avoidance"."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
OptionARMAGEDDON wrote: »because there is no more money! The boomers stole it all and still want more!
Perhaps we should cull the boomers and beyond and "burn" all their money with them.
That would leave you free to create your own warped utopia.
Don't forget that wealth will trickle down, taxed and spent eventually."If you act like an illiterate man, your learning will never stop... Being uneducated, you have no fear of the future.".....
"big business is parasitic, like a mosquito, whereas I prefer the lighter touch, like that of a butterfly. "A butterfly can suck honey from the flower without damaging it," "Arunachalam Muruganantham0 -
For what its worth, whilst I firmly believe that the public sector requires reform, I am surprised at the chancellor taking the whole public sector on at the current time, rather than trying to take on individual areas one at a time.
I can forsee the damage that the public sector can do with a co-ordinated series of strikes. For example the roads don't get gritted one night. Rubbish collectors "work" the next day but can't actually get the bin wagons out on the roads. Millions in both public and private sectors take the opportunity for a day off work. Teachers strike one day, school caretakers the next. 2 days disruption for one day's loss of pay each. Tax collectors strike around the January payment deadline for the self-employed. Staff in cemeteries and crematoria strike the first week in January. Hospital staff strike in the run up to Christmas."When the people fear the government there is tyranny, when the government fears the people there is liberty." - Thomas Jefferson0 -
Who is that then? I can only see the effect on my funds from bank shares over the past few years, it is not pretty
If you find him can you let me know, because the managed funds I've had have been average at best.
They certainly seem to do well for themselves though I will give them that.0
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