Public Sector Strike(s)

Jack_Johnson_the_acorn

elantan wrote: »

Wouldn't mind an electricians wage actually ....but hope u don't mind old bean any sympathy I had for yourself ... Well u shot it outa the water ... U aint ever getting it back either

True, you're clearly uneducated, I apologise to all electricians for any offence caused.....

Sympathy? no thanks..... Just keep paying my pension and I'll continue smiling

macaque_2

The 70% club has been following the public sector strike with close interest over the past few days. What has moved us at 70% house is the number of public sector workers who have come on the media to say:

"I am desperately torn by this strike. I care deeply about my patients/pupils/students/dysfunctional families/illegal immigrants/long holidays/excellent pay/amazing pension (delete as appropriate). However, out of a sense of principle and personal greed, I am left with no option but to join my colleagues on the picket line."

Clearly the mental anquish created by these difficult decisions is bad for public health and this has prompted the 70%C to come up with the:

70% Club Public Sector Strikers Advisory Service

Just answer the following simple questions to solve your moral dilema.

Q1. I am competent and my job meets a valuable need but my pay/pension does not match equivalent jobs in the private sector.
A1. Do not go on strike. Hand in your notice tomorrow and get a job in the private sector.

Q2. I am competent but my job is a waste of tax payer's money.
A2. Do not go on strike. If you do, people will find out that your job is a waste of time and you could be out of work

Q3 I am incompetent but my job would be valuable (if I was any good at it).
A3. Do not go on strike. If you do, people could find out that your absence makes no difference and you could also be out of a job.

Q4. I am incompetent and my job is a waste of tax payer's money.
A4. Do go on strike. Lets face it, with Labour out of power for the next 3/4 years it can only be a matter of time before you get cashiered. If you go on strike, you can claim policitically motivated victimisation when they sack you. Not only will you get more compensation but you can also sell your story to the red tops.

bigheadxx

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Where are you getting the figure in bold from?

It's massively incorrect. Total cost was 2350% more than what you state.

These figures are from the National Audit Office. It totalled 850bn in 2009 alone.

It reached a peak of 955bn.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/taxpayers-likely-to-break-even-on-bank-bailout-says-watchdog-2160570.html

It won't cost us a penny and most of the money you are talking about is theoretical support as opposed to money actually paid out. The taxpayer also receives large sums of money from financial institutions in order to provide this support.

Its pointless doing down the one sector that has the potential to create the jobs and growth we need in the future.

Jack_Johnson_the_acorn

macaque wrote: »

The 70% club has been following the public sector strike with close interest over the past few days. What has moved us at 70% house is the number of public sector workers who have come on the media to say:

"I am desperately torn by this strike. I care deeply about my patients/pupils/students/dysfunctional families/illegal immigrants/long holidays/excellent pay/amazing pension (delete as appropriate). However, out of a sense of principle and personal greed, I am left with no option but to join my colleagues on the picket line."

Clearly the mental anquish created by these difficult decisions is bad for public health and this has prompted the 70%C to come up with the:

70% Club Public Sector Strikers Advisory Service

Just answer the following simple questions to solve your moral dilema.

Q1. I am competent and my job meets a valuable need but my pay/pension does not match equivalent jobs in the private sector.
A1. Do not go on strike. Hand in your notice tomorrow and get a job in the private sector.

Q2. I am competent but my job is a waste of tax payer's money.
A2. Do not go on strike. If you do, people will find out that your job is a waste of time and you could be out of work

Q3 I am incompetent but my job would be valuable (if I was any good at it).
A3. Do not go on strike. If you do, people could find out that your absence makes no difference and you could also be out of a job.

Q4. I am incompetent and my job is a waste of tax payer's money.
A4. Do go on strike. Lets face it, with Labour out of power for the next 3/4 years it can only be a matter of time before you get cashiered. If you go on strike, you can claim policitically motivated victimisation when they sack you. Not only will you get more compensation but you can also sell your story to the red tops.

Haha, no I think I'll stay in the public sector and you can continue to pay my pension, thanks though....... x

Credit-Crunched

thegirlintheattic wrote: »

and you moan about it but didn't fight. That's your problem. We are fighting for it.

You really are clueless as to how this private sector works, we CAN NOT hide behind yards of bureaucratic red tape and archaic HR procedures.

Yes we challenged it, however the employer, unlike the gov. did not negotiate. They said, sign these new terms or lose the pension.

Its not about being bullied, its about the harsh reality of life, somtimes things happen that we don't like, accepting them is not being bullied. Its just I am a small wheel in a big machine, and not accepting the new terms would have been career suicide.

The private sector has something called freedom of choice and competitions, so if your company is not doing it fast enough, cheap enough then the customer will find someone who is.

If our employer carried on with the DB scheme then costs would rise, effect business running and then boom we are all on the scrap heap.

So please, do not get on your high horse and say the private sector has been cowardly and accepted it, maybe we have been wiser and saw a cut in pension as the lesser of two evils.

Credit-Crunched

Question for all you public sector people.

I work for a company that provides an invaluable service to society, my defined benefit scheme is under stress.

Please can you all pay from your taxes to make up the difference of my contributions and the governments.

You will not benefit from it in any way, but I will then have a pension on average 40% greater than yours.

In return I will pay in an extra 3% of my already generous salary

Seem fair?

CLAPTON

Credit-Crunched wrote: »

Question for all you public sector people.

I work for a company that provides an invaluable service to society, my defined benefit scheme is under stress.

Please can you all pay from your taxes to make up the difference of my contributions and the governments.

You will not benefit from it in any way, but I will then have a pension on average 40% greater than yours.

In return I will pay in an extra 3% of my already generous salary

Seem fair?

what do you do
what do you earn
what contribution to the pension does your employer make
what contribution to the pension do you make

chucknorris

Credit-Crunched wrote: »

Question for all you public sector people.

I work for a company that provides an invaluable service to society, my defined benefit scheme is under stress.

Please can you all pay from your taxes to make up the difference of my contributions and the governments.

You will not benefit from it in any way, but I will then have a pension on average 40% greater than yours.

In return I will pay in an extra 3% of my already generous salary

Seem fair?

You seem to be assuming that everyone who works in the public sector thinks the same about the pension cuts.

triticale

julieq wrote: »

Pleasant lot these public sector workers, aren't they?

Nice of you to extrapolate the actions of one anonymous stranger on the internet to 6 million people. :T

I_luv_cats wrote: »

The PMQ's were like a Play-ground full of school children!! (disgusting show of authority)

Who do you believe Union strike figures V Gov. Strike figures??

Who do you believe Gov future GDP figures V OFS GDP figures??

Who do you believe on how much really will pensions be worth??

It's more like a scrap and creating more resentment between people!

Nobody can really make up their mind because we aren't told the full truth/picture??

Wasn't it utterly pathetic? :mad:

Frankly I don't believe a word either the Government or the Unions say.

Lies, half truths, manipulation and propoganda from both.

Credit-Crunched

CLAPTON wrote: »

what do you do
what do you earn
what contribution to the pension does your employer make
what contribution to the pension do you make

I earn about 1,100 net my employer only offer a non contributory stakeholder pensions scheme.

So I pay 200 a month into a private scheme to provide for MYSELF.

Thats 18% of MY OWN money paying for a pension that will be a fraction of that the strikes were over