Public Sector Strike(s)

thescouselander

Even private sector workers should be worried about these cuts. On top of the pay freezes/caps the additional pension contributions could mean a 30% reduction in pay in real terms for public sector workers. No doubt some would think thats a good thing but how many households can absorb that sort of a cut in pay? These households are going to have to cut back massively - that's bad news if you work in a private sector company that has customers working in the public sector.

elantan

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Your pensions would be worth jack if it hadn't have been for the taxpayers bailing the banks out and didn't continue to prop up the entire country and banking system. Public sector employees pay tax too.

Think carefully before typing.

We are all paying for each other to use different services and get different outcomes from the tax system. Doesn't matter if you are a private or public sector worker.

funnily enough i am one of those tax payers of which you talk about ... my money also wasnt in a bank ... maybe engage your brain before being nasty

pd52

Graham_Devon wrote: »

Your pensions would be worth jack if it hadn't have been for the taxpayers bailing the banks out and didn't continue to prop up the entire country and banking system. Public sector employees pay tax too.

Think carefully before typing.

it doesnt matter on here does it, they forget that the public sector pay for services in the private sector, pay tax, purchase things in the private sector, they wont be happy until its all privatised with managers and ceo's on huge salaries and bonus propped up by tax money, but its all ok because on the face of it, it will be the 'private sector'

were all generalised as lazy and useless.

Graham_Devon

elantan wrote: »

funnily enough i am one of those tax payers of which you talk about ... my money also wasnt in a bank ... maybe engage your brain before being nasty

Your pension didn't need to be "in a bank".

They would be worth nothing if the system collapsed.

That's not being nasty. It's being realistic. Your pension is only still worth something thanks to taxpayers. You are moaning about paying into other peoples pensions, but that is EXACTLY what we are all doing for you in terms of propping the system (and therefore your pension) up so that it still has a value. I never said you wasn't a taxpayer, I said we all are.

mr-angry

elantan wrote: »

yep you do ... but you also pay for your own bins to get emptied yadda yadda yadda ... i cant afford a pension on my money ... yet i pay for other peoples... you dont pay for my pension ... that is my point

Thats my point!

You do not pay for their pensions, you pay for a service for which the workers providing the service get paid a salary, some of which is deferred as a pension.

You dont pay for their pensions thats my point, you pay for a service and if you feel that you are not getting value for money for that service your time would be more productively spent lobbying your politicians stating your case.

taker920

I'm a local government worker and will not be striking tomorrow. As a union member I will cross the picket line which will consist of some of my staff which is something in an ideal world i'd rather not do. I voted no in the strike ballot and don't feel I should be bound by the yes vote of only 22% of the union members who could be bothered to vote.

I don't agree with the pension changes but I don't feel a strike is the correct approach at a time when my two nephews have lost their jobs and cannot find work, something being replicated across the Country.

I've been a public sector worker long enough to know you either get more now and less later, or the opposite.

Graham_Devon

pd52 wrote: »

it doesnt matter on here does it, they forget that the public sector pay for services in the private sector, pay tax, purchase things in the private sector, they wont be happy until its all privatised with managers and ceo's on huge salaries and bonus propped up by tax money, but its all ok because on the face of it, it will be the 'private sector'

were all generalised as lazy and useless.

And then we will moan about it, just as we did electric, water and trains as the costs are just going up.

elantan

incidently i support a workers right to remove their services if they feel aggrived ... i just wish that public sector workers would appreciate what they do have ... i hear people in the public sector stating how easy and better the private sector have it ... but that isnt always true ... i work really hard for very little money, and i have little to no rights the ones that i do have have been eroded over the years ... i would love to have an employer making contributuons to a pension for me ... i would love to have days like the royal wedding off ... i would love to get paid even time and a half for a public holiday i get straight time even for days like xmas ...

Graham_Devon

elantan wrote: »

i just wish that public sector workers would appreciate what they do have ...

Read 2 posts above yours then.

I wish some private sector workers, such as banks would be grateful for what they have, but they are not. I'm not going to damn everyone who works in the private sector for it though.

elantan

i was typing when the posts were made ... not a fast typer me